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Good column by Kass.

The Wheaton Rams had the biggest program in the western burbs for years. Not anymore. The end is near.

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 "Football is such a great game, it teaches great lessons to young men. "


That they'll forget by age 45.


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The Wheaton Rams had the biggest program in the western burbs for years. Not anymore. The end is near.

It is all about the brain. The brains that are injured in the game, yes, but also about how the human mind works, as the American middle class withdraws from football, a cultural trend that will cut the NFL away from American virtue.

Wheaton is hardly middle class, but the death of youth football is a great thing.

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"But it's the parents," he said. "They're worried about the brain."



Wow, what asshole parents...

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 "Football is such a great game, it teaches great lessons to young men. "


That they'll forget by age 45.

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We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

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The sad part about it is there is no scientific research that supports concussions in football that lead to CTE at the younger levels. All we have is NFL players, where the speed and size of the game is much more violent where we see the impact being felt. As we know about 1 pct of the youth and high school football players in this country will ever make it to that level. The other thing we do not know is how many of those NFL players may have been pre-disposed to some sort of CTE no matter what sport they ever played along the way. The one big thing the media overlooks is the positive impact the sport plays into, discipline, hard work, leadership, team building and plain and simple...keeping kids busy and out of trouble. Sad to see.

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We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

2038 Rick "I told you. A dead league wouldnt broadcast games broadcast on TruTV and SPIKE!"

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The sad part about it is there is no scientific research that supports concussions in football that lead to CTE at the younger levels. All we have is NFL players, where the speed and size of the game is much more violent where we see the impact being felt. As we know about 1 pct of the youth and high school football players in this country will ever make it to that level. The other thing we do not know is how many of those NFL players may have been pre-disposed to some sort of CTE no matter what sport they ever played along the way. The one big thing the media overlooks is the positive impact the sport plays into, discipline, hard work, leadership, team building and plain and simple...keeping kids busy and out of trouble. Sad to see.

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There is a point there about the NFL being a pretty small club for these CTE cases to be coming from. I wonder how many college players end up like that? The impact there is a level below NFL but pretty significant. The 4 year career is shorter but there are many more players.

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We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?
7 on 7 until they are 17 and a half or 18 if legally required to consent to the danger.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?
7 on 7 until they are 17 and a half or 18 if legally required to consent to the danger.

It'll be much different NFL (with players in year 4 instead of year 14) won't it? Sloppier?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?
7 on 7 until they are 17 and a half or 18 if legally required to consent to the danger.

It'll be much different NFL (with players in year 4 instead of year 14) won't it? Sloppier?

The skill positions would be fine. Line play would be hurt the most but in four years they can figure out things. I also would guess that future lineman start preparing in high school even if they can't play.

When the other option is shut it all down this will work just fine.

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Good. Should be playing baseball anyway.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?
7 on 7 until they are 17 and a half or 18 if legally required to consent to the danger.

It'll be much different NFL (with players in year 4 instead of year 14) won't it? Sloppier?

The skill positions would be fine. Line play would be hurt the most but in four years they can figure out things. I also would guess that future lineman start preparing in high school even if they can't play.

When the other option is shut it all down this will work just fine.

Fair enough.

Would you be shocked of it became a niche sport like boxing?


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Not that Bricks plan will ever happen but skill players only playing 7 on 7 until college would not be fine. It is no where near the same thing.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Run down your plan again.

No contact til high school?
7 on 7 until they are 17 and a half or 18 if legally required to consent to the danger.

It'll be much different NFL (with players in year 4 instead of year 14) won't it? Sloppier?

The skill positions would be fine. Line play would be hurt the most but in four years they can figure out things. I also would guess that future lineman start preparing in high school even if they can't play.

When the other option is shut it all down this will work just fine.

Fair enough.

Would you be shocked of it became a niche sport like boxing?

In the next few decades I would. No sport stays insanely popular forever. In 30 years esports may be the new NFL.

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Not that Bricks plan will ever happen but skill players only playing 7 on 7 until college would not be fine. It is no where near the same thing.

You can't have 13 year olds playing tackle football. Maybe the age starts at 16 but 7 on 7 is the future of youth football.

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Not that Bricks plan will ever happen but skill players only playing 7 on 7 until college would not be fine. It is no where near the same thing.


You are correct.

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Soon the football pipelines in Texas and Florida will be under hurricane water for the whole season so there's that.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
We are going to laugh at these 'Death of the NFL' columns.

Yup. Especially funny coming from baseball guys.

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NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.


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NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.

Pretty much disagree with this entire post. The second part is laughably wrong.

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NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.


Terrible post.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carson-w ... ons-2017-5

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HawaiiYou wrote:
NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.


Terrible post.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carson-w ... ons-2017-5



ya in 2017. how about the last 5 - 10 years?


both of the comments above =

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HawaiiYou wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.


Terrible post.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carson-w ... ons-2017-5



ya in 2017. how about the last 5 years?

FarveFan - no worst post is your Theo post that has been well documented.

That's a bad "gotcha" attempt. We all make terrible posts. I acknowledged mine.

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FavreFan wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
NFL sucks these days. All they need to kill it off is a work stoppage like baseball in 94.

You can't tell me with all the technology we have today that they can't make a helmet that can absorb a lot of the hits? I'm sure they have something out there but I doubt the NFL cares to spend any time or money researching it.


Terrible post.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carson-w ... ons-2017-5



ya in 2017. how about the last 5 years?

FarveFan - no worst post is your Theo post that has been well documented.

That's a bad "gotcha" attempt. We all make terrible posts. I acknowledged mine.


it was accurate what I said. you nfl lovers are in denial. time to face the music goodell lovers.


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Your entire post couldn't have been more inaccurate even if you tried.

Your point: it's possible to design a helmet that severely reduces concussions, but the NFL won't spend the money on it.

The reality: it's impossible to design a helmet that severely reduces concussions, but the NFL has spent millions trying.

Just stop.

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FavreFan wrote:
Your entire post couldn't have been more inaccurate even if you tried.

Your point: it's possible to design a helmet that severely reduces concussions, but the NFL won't spend the money on it.

The reality: it's impossible to design a helmet that severely reduces concussions, but the NFL has spent millions trying.

Just stop.



Why can't someone design a helmet or pads or something. Have they really researched it? How do we know? The players in the NFL are just pieces of meat for the league. I don't think management would like to help it's employees in this situation. They don't really seem to care the last 20 years or so until the media made the NFL look bad.


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