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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:07 am 
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Gruden talking to former assistants seeing if they would be interested in new job.

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The NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported on Christmas Eve that Gruden is doing a bit of a personnel dance, contacting former assistants to see if they might be interested in a new gig.

“Gruden right now is going through the process of reaching out to former assistants and friends in the coaching industry to see if they would potentially come with him if he were able to get a head coaching job,” Rapoport said. “Of course, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers do have Dirk Koetter on the hot seat. That would be his preferred destination.”

It’s important to note a few points. First, this isn’t an indication that Gruden has a new job lined up, or that he’s even being considered. Plus, he’s been out of the coaching game since the end of the 2008 season. That’s two generations in NFL time. The players he’d be drafting next year were in elementary school the last time Gruden wore a headset.

But the top quality NFL teams look for in a new coach is an old coach, and Gruden has spent the last decade at the top of every college and pro fan’s wish list for a new top dog. Plus, he’s got deep contacts across the league, and could assemble a strong roster of assistants that would, in theory, help him through the rough spots.

It’ll make for a fascinating next few weeks of discussion, or a fatter ESPN paycheck for Gruden, one of the two.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Gruden
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Oakland is preparing to pursue ESPN analyst Jon Gruden with an offer so strong it could even include an ownership stake in the Raiders, according to league sources.

Gruden will be tempted to accept it, according to sources, but would prefer not to make any decisions until the regular season finishes Sunday and the Raiders make a final determination on their current head coach, Jack Del Rio, who signed a contract extension last summer.

But Oakland long has appealed to Gruden for a variety of reasons. He would return to an organization he didn't want to leave in 2001, he would inherit a young quarterback in Derek Carr whom he feels strongly about, and he would get to coach a team that is slated to move in 2020 to Las Vegas, where he would not have to pay state tax, as he does now in Florida, where he currently lives. Gruden's contract even could be backloaded to pay him more in the Nevada years and lessen his tax burden during the Oakland ones.

Raiders owner Mark Davis has offered Gruden an ownership stake in the past, according to sources, and if he were willing to do so again, the contract then would have to be approved by all 32 NFL owners. The NFL's finance committee also would have to vet Gruden, but there is no reason to think it would not approve the deal.

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There is no way he gets an ownership piece. Other owners will never approve that.

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Every damn time you think the Raiders are gonna turn the corner, they step on the rake.


Agreed. This would be REALLY bad.

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Every damn time you think the Raiders are gonna turn the corner, they step on the rake.

Yup. Derek Carr is gonna be backing up Bortles in Jacksonville in three years at this rate.

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Every damn time you think the Raiders are gonna turn the corner, they step on the rake.

Yup. Derek Carr is gonna be backing up Bortles in Jacksonville in three years at this rate.


The Raiders need a tweak not a bulldozer. This is all about Vegas sizzle.

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Every damn time you think the Raiders are gonna turn the corner, they step on the rake.

Yup. Derek Carr is gonna be backing up Bortles in Jacksonville in three years at this rate.


The Raiders need a tweak not a bulldozer. This is all about Vegas sizzle.

My man John Fox can take over talented teams and lead them to super bowl losses. Might be the next step.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Gruden
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Gruden was not a great coach. He was a good coach...a decade ago. I'd say its much more likely the game passed him by then he will do something special for the Raiders

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Gruden was not a great coach. He was a good coach...a decade ago. I'd say its much more likely the game passed him by then he will do something special for the Raiders


Completely agree. That being said he may really help Carr take another step.

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He's off my TV, that's really the only important thing to take away from this.

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He's off my TV, that's really the only important thing to take away from this.


Has he ever not loved someone?

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 1655983106

Raiders are calling a significant press conference for Tuesday at which time they will introduce Jon Gruden as their next head coach, as @CorkOnTheNFL reported.


Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN. The deal is likely to be worth about $100 million.


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That is so Raiders. No income tax in Nevada.


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Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN.


I thought Tom Landry had a deal at least as long as that back in the day.

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I don't know if Gruden has been out of coaching so long that the game has passed him by. It's not like he has been working in a field unrelated to professional football since he last coached. He is familiar with personnel, current coaching strategies, schemes, etc.


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It's a long deal but it isn't a ridiculous amount of money. What are guys like Belichick and Reid making?

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This is terrible.

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I'm excited. This is big news. We get to see if Gruden is definitively a great head coach.

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It's a long deal but it isn't a ridiculous amount of money. What are guys like Belichick and Reid making?
It's a pretty high amount of money, Nas.


Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $8,000,000
Sean Payton New Orleans Saints $8,000,000
Bill Belichick New England Patriots $7,500,000
Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $7,500,000
John Harbaugh Baltimore Ravens $7,000,000
Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $7,000,000
Mike McCarthy Green Bay Packers $6,000,000
Jason Garrett Dallas Cowboys $6,000,000
Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals $6,000,000
Jay Gruden Washington Redskins $5,000,000
Bill O’Brien Houston Texans $5,000,000
Chuck Pagano Indianapolis Colts $4,500,000
Dan Quinn Atlanta Falcons $4,500,000
Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengals $4,500,000
John Fox Chicago Bears $4,250,000
Mike Zimmer Minnesota Vikings $4,000,000
Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers $4,000,000
Todd Bowles New York Jets $4,000,000
Jim Caldwell Detroit Lions $4,000,000
Jack Del Rio Oakland Raiders $3,500,000

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This is terrible.

:lol:

Yeah, I'm not reading hardly any positive reaction.

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This is terrible.

:lol:

Yeah, I'm not reading hardly any positive reaction.

The only positive reaction is Gruden as he heads to the bank. Great deal for him.

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Maybe Lovie would come back for 10 million a year.

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The expected coordinators are a big step up from Del Rio's staff. Talk of players not too pleased with JDR's preferential treatment of Beast Mode and Lynch was reportedly goofing on Carr throughout the season. A change was needed.

Keeping GM McKenzie, but bring in an EVP/Director of Operations.

Great moves. This should be fun.

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Just checked Gruden's Wikipedia page.

This may be the most pathetic record I have ever seen:

Buccaneers Career Wins Record (57)

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