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Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach.

RFDC wrote:

Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach.

I think he would've been in the 10-12 range if the author didn't purposely separate the new hires.

Zimmer is way too high. Without Schurmer as his OC he has been exposed. And his defense chokes on a dick in the big games.

RFDC wrote:

Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach.

I think he would've been in the 10-12 range if the author didn't purposely separate the new hires.

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Matt Patricia is listed way too high at this point.

Kirkwood wrote:

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him :lol:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Matthew Patricia is listed way too high at this point.

What? He’s listed as 3rd worst non-new hire coach! He can’t go much lower amigo.

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him :lol:

Bruce Arians
Sean McDermott
Bill O'Brien

:lol: Sean McDermott. He will be fired next year.

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him :lol:

Bruce Arians
Sean McDermott
Bill O'Brien

Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson :lol:

Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy.

Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed.

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him :lol:

Bruce Arians
Sean McDermott
Bill O'Brien

Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson :lol:

Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy.

Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed.

Your analysis is lazy. What drove the Bears success last year? The defense. Who deferred all responsibility for the defense? Nagy.

I'm always going to give a guy with a track record of successes over a one-year record.

You should be ashamed for falling for SSS. Very sad.

Andy Reid with ZERO super bowl wins is not #2 on that list. As much of a rectum as Pete Carroll is...he's #2 on that list. Mike Tomlin should be #3 but he's sliding every by the season.

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league :lol:

Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him :lol:

Bruce Arians
Sean McDermott
Bill O'Brien

Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson :lol:

Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy.

Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed.

O'Brien and certainly McDermott don't have a track record of success. Fuck outta with calling my analysis lazy and then trying to shit out those thoughts :lol:

Nagy built a winning culture there immediately and absolutely carried a bum like Mitch into competency. His work was much more impressive than McDermott's last year.

What terrible lame reasoning.

I bet McDermott was in Nagy's position as he took a loser franchise (no playoffs in 18 years) and made them. Installed a winning culture! Took a consensus bust in Josh Allen and made him semi-competent.

Gimme a break with these lame excuses

Sean Payton is overrated. He's missed the play-offs entirely in 5 out of 12 years. Even McCarthy had a better record.

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Sean Payton is overrated. He's missed the play-offs entirely in 5 out of 12 years. Even McCarthy had a better record.

Yeah but he also got fucked hard out of a 2nd SB appearance this past year and it's very hard to fault him for the Minneapolis Miracle.

Edit: I know Bostic fucked McCarthy out of a 2nd appearance too

Caller Bob wrote:

:lol: Sean McDermott. He will be fired next year.

See, you say that because you're football stupid.

He took the Bills to the playoffs two years ago and then won 6 games with a team EVERYONE thought would struggle to win 2.

Take a look at the predictions for the Bills last year. It's revisionist history to think otherwise.

The guy made an idiotic mistake with Peterman for Taylor but it seems like that was their dumbass GM forcing his hand.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:59 am ]
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https://www.rotoworld.com/article/goal- ... aches-2019 Solid article. Obviously everything on the list after #1 is very debatable. Kyle Shanahan's ranking probably makes the least sense, but the guy makes decent arguments for where he puts all the coaches. Personally I would move Nagy and Reich up and Carroll down, but I understand both have more to prove. 1. Bill Belichick 2. Andy Reid 3. Sean McVay 4. Doug Pederson 5. Peter Carroll 6. Sean Payton 7. Mike Tomlin 8. John Harbaugh 9. Mike Zimmer 10. Ron Rivera 11. Anthony Lynn 12. Matt Nagy 13. Frank Reich 14. Bill O'Brien 15. Kyle Shanahan 16. Sean McDermott 17. Mike Vrabel 18. Jason Garrett 19. Dan Quinn 20. Jay Gruden 21. Doug Marrone 22. Matt Patricia 23. Jon Gruden 24. Pat Shurmer NEW COACHES 25. Bruce Arians 26. Vic Fangio 27. Brian Flores 28. Adam Gase 29. Kliff Kingsbury 30. Freddie Kitchens 31. Matt LeFleur 32. Zac Taylor

Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:01 pm ]
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Zimmer is way too high. Without Schurmer as his OC he has been exposed. And his defense chokes on a dick in the big games.

Author:	RFDC [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 pm ]
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Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach. I think he would've been in the 10-12 range if the author didn't purposely separate the new hires.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:03 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: RFDC wrote: Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach. I think he would've been in the 10-12 range if the author didn't purposely separate the new hires. You should but Aryan right by Reich, just because.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:03 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Zimmer is way too high. Without Schurmer as his OC he has been exposed. And his defense chokes on a dick in the big games. Zimmer is solid. After 13 the list falls off a cliff

Author:	RFDC [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:03 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: RFDC wrote: Arians deserves to be higher even tho he is a new coach. I think he would've been in the 10-12 range if the author didn't purposely separate the new hires. Def in top 15 I would think.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:05 pm ]
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Kitchens is gonna skyrocket on a list like this by November of next year. IDK if he's even gonna be a great HC, but he will have that offense humming and they will be good so he will get the credit.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:33 pm ]
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Matt Patricia is listed way too high at this point. Sean Payton is better than McVay and Pederson thus far.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:36 pm ]
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Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:38 pm ]
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Peter Carroll, lol. Why not William Belichik?

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:39 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:40 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Matt Patricia is listed way too high at this point. What? He’s listed as 3rd worst non-new hire coach! He can’t go much lower amigo.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:40 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him Bruce Arians Sean McDermott Bill O'Brien

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Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:41 pm ]
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Sean McDermott. He will be fired next year.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:42 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him Bruce Arians Sean McDermott Bill O'Brien Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy. Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:44 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: :lol: Sean McDermott. He will be fired next year. See, you say that because you're football stupid. He took the Bills to the playoffs two years ago and then won 6 games with a team EVERYONE thought would struggle to win 2. Take a look at the predictions for the Bills last year. It's revisionist history to think otherwise. The guy made an idiotic mistake with Peterman for Taylor but it seems like that was their dumbass GM forcing his hand.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:46 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him Bruce Arians Sean McDermott Bill O'Brien Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy. Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed. Your analysis is lazy. What drove the Bears success last year? The defense. Who deferred all responsibility for the defense? Nagy. I'm always going to give a guy with a track record of successes over a one-year record. You should be ashamed for falling for SSS. Very sad.

Author:	Furious Styles [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:47 pm ]
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Gruden after Patricia? What a slam.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:52 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him Bruce Arians Sean McDermott Bill O'Brien Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy. Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed. Your analysis is lazy. What drove the Bears success last year? The defense. Who deferred all responsibility for the defense? Nagy. I'm always going to give a guy with a track record of successes over a one-year record. You should be ashamed for falling for SSS. Very sad. O'Brien and certainly McDermott don't have a track record of success. Fuck outta with calling my analysis lazy and then trying to shit out those thoughts Nagy built a winning culture there immediately and absolutely carried a bum like Mitch into competency. His work was much more impressive than McDermott's last year.

Author:	BigW72 [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:53 pm ]
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Andy Reid with ZERO super bowl wins is not #2 on that list. As much of a rectum as Pete Carroll is...he's #2 on that list. Mike Tomlin should be #3 but he's sliding every by the season.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:55 pm ]
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wdelaney72 wrote: Andy Reid with ZERO super bowl wins is not #2 on that list. As much of a rectum as Pete Carroll is...he's #2 on that list. Mike Tomlin should be #3 but he's sliding every by the season. Pete Carroll has one of the best QB's in the NFL, who was playing out of his mind against Dallas in the playoffs, and continued to deliberately run the ball with no success and promptly got beaten by Jason Garrett in a playoff game. #5 is being generous with Carroll. He belongs nowhere near the top 3.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:57 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Nagy is way too high. Way too early to be knocking on top-10 in the league Have fun trying to justify putting one of the guys currently behind him in front of him Bruce Arians Sean McDermott Bill O'Brien Bill O’Brien thought Tom Savage was better than Deshaun Watson Nothing in McDermott’s resume supports putting him higher than Nagy. Arians is fine but that’s not how the list was constructed. Your analysis is lazy. What drove the Bears success last year? The defense. Who deferred all responsibility for the defense? Nagy. I'm always going to give a guy with a track record of successes over a one-year record. You should be ashamed for falling for SSS. Very sad. O'Brien and certainly McDermott don't have a track record of success. Fuck outta with calling my analysis lazy and then trying to shit out those thoughts Nagy built a winning culture there immediately and absolutely carried a bum like Mitch into competency. His work was much more impressive than McDermott's last year. What terrible lame reasoning. I bet McDermott was in Nagy's position as he took a loser franchise (no playoffs in 18 years) and made them. Installed a winning culture! Took a consensus bust in Josh Allen and made him semi-competent. Gimme a break with these lame excuses

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:02 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: What terrible lame reasoning. I bet McDermott was in Nagy's position as he took a loser franchise (no playoffs in 18 years) and made them. Installed a winning culture! Took a consensus bust in Josh Allen and made him semi-competent. Gimme a break with these lame excuses If Nagy goes 6-10 this upcoming season you will get close to having an argument. You have none right now, and are falling back on overusing the word "lame" in lieu of an actual rebuttal. The one year McDermott got to the playoffs was still less successful than Nagy's year last year and McDermott had a better QB. Stop doing the dumb meatball Packer thing You sound like if Frank was a Packer fan

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:13 pm ]
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Sean Payton is overrated. He's missed the play-offs entirely in 5 out of 12 years. Even McCarthy had a better record.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:15 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Sean Payton is overrated. He's missed the play-offs entirely in 5 out of 12 years. Even McCarthy had a better record. Yeah but he also got fucked hard out of a 2nd SB appearance this past year and it's very hard to fault him for the Minneapolis Miracle. Edit: I know Bostic fucked McCarthy out of a 2nd appearance too

Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:38 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: Caller Bob wrote: :lol: Sean McDermott. He will be fired next year. See, you say that because you're football stupid. He took the Bills to the playoffs two years ago and then won 6 games with a team EVERYONE thought would struggle to win 2. Take a look at the predictions for the Bills last year. It's revisionist history to think otherwise. The guy made an idiotic mistake with Peterman for Taylor but it seems like that was their dumbass GM forcing his hand. 18th ranked defense last year, 26th the year before, forget about offense, for a defensive guy his defenses, well suck. His only good hire on offense was Lynn, who left the following year.