https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32051371/nfl-power-rankings-2021-preseason-1-32-poll-plus-players-coaches-general-managers-hot-seat

Of note...Raiders @ #21, Bears @ #22.

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Packers way too high. Smoke and mirrors should put them outside of the top ten. Bears probably a bit too low. 15-16 would seem about right.

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A team that has been in the NFC Championship game the last 2 years, good talent level and you think they should be outside the Top 10?

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You think GB is better than Cleveland?

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Yes, I do.

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Yep I do.

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Yeah Frank's doing his Frank thing. They seemed to have got the top 4 right. Hard to say exact order after that. I do agree the Bears are likely too low but it seems like a hedge against Nagy's stubbornness and stupidity. They're around 16-18 with Fields, around 26 or so with Dalton.

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Perhaps I was a bit harsh. They probably should be on the low end of the top ten, definitely outside the top four.

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Cowboys and Dolphins are too high IMO.

but it is all a crap shoot right now.

I would say the top 10 is pretty accurate to start year.

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There's really not a case to be made at all they should be outside the top 4. 4th seems like the exact perfect spot for them actually.

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I guess I will have to ask that question again after Chubb runs for 185 yards on xmas.

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You said the exact same thing about Derrick Henry and GB last year. How did that prediction turn out for you?

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I dont think anyone is putting down Cleveland. They are a solid team, but they are not in the top 4 right now.

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100 yards?

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Teams better than GB

KC
Buffalo
TB
Browns
Ravens
Tennessee

Maybe Seattle

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He didn't even crack 100 and you had the titans blowing the doors off GB. GB won 40-14

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See my posts to 312 here. Also can't take the Ravens suggestion seriously from someone who thinks Lamar sucks. Gonna have to pick a lane there.

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I don't think Tennessee is levels above GB but I'd give the edge to Tenn, the 14-41 debacle last year notwithstanding.

Ravens equal to GB based on better D and run game.

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It's 2021, not 1983. And GB has a phenomenal run game.

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So the last time they played GB won by a huge margin, and you are still giving the edge to Tenn?

I mean I hate the packers and all, but that is a bit much

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Tennessee is one of the few teams in the league that without a doubt has a worse defense than GB does. Gotta love veganfan

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Not sufficiently meatball enough, my friend, and this is coming from a vegan.



But the Ravens have been winning during the regular season with that 1983 offense. Even if we were to cancel the offenses out the Ravens have a massive advantage on D. I typed that message while at the DMV, didnt come out well.

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Big IF.. but if Brown and Julio stay relatively healthy..they are going to be very good.

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The Ravens led the league in TD passes from the pocket and we’re top half of the league last year in that metric. They have not been winning with a 1983 playbook. Do I need to play the do you even watch the games card?

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They’re gonna be a good team regardless. Top 5-10 probably. Objectively speaking there is just nothing whatsoever that indicates they are better than GB.

Just deal with it lol. Go the Frank route of making fun of them for not winning the SB even tho they always shit on the Bears. It’s the best route. Saying the Titans are better just makes you sound silly.

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I don't know if they are better than GB, close though.. I said Cleveland is better than GB, so is Buffalo and KC.. GB is better than Tampa, should have won that game.

I see my guy Logan Thomas is projected to beat your boy Fant in pretty much every category.

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I forgot about that. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

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This cracked me up


Everyone knows Quinn is shit, he would be gone but the Brainiac that is Pace gave him two years guaranteed.