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Boomer was just on with P&S and he vehemently disagreed with the Ravens going for 2 in this situation. I think Harbaugh's explanation makes sense. Thoughts?

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Here was the scenario: Late in the game, the Ravens scored to cut the Browns' lead to 24-15. An extra point would have pulled Baltimore within eight points and make it a one-possession game. Until teams started using some forward thinking in recent years, just about every coach would have taken the extra point. Keep the game alive.

Harbaugh went for two.

"It’s really a non-decision," Harbaugh said.

Harbaugh explained the thought process as well as anyone could. In the Ravens' scenario, a team needs a successful two-point conversion at some point. Putting it off until later doesn't do any good. Going for two right away lets a team know what it needs the rest of the game.

"You do it at that point in time because you’re going to have to win a two-point conversion, so you understand if you get it or don’t get it early where you’re at going from there, how many possessions you're going to need, and what you’re going to have to do," Harbaugh said. "If you wait until the last two-point conversion and you don’t get it, the game’s over. You lost.

"You try it early. If you’re in a 7-point game, you know where we stand. We don’t get it, you’re in a 9-point game and you need two possessions."

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I thought this was gonna be about the game where they went for 2 at the buzzer and lost. A XP FG would have tied it. I thought that was the wrong decision.

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veganfan21 wrote:
I thought this was gonna be about the game where they went for 2 at the buzzer and lost. A XP FG would have tied it. I thought that was the wrong decision.

Ironically Boomer agreed with that decision (to go for it).

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:lol: okay well, would have loved to hear his reasoning.

On the example you cited, it's correct - you'll need a 2x at some point, might as well do it now. I'm just thinking from a psychological point of view if you're a player and the score is 24-16 instead of 24-15, you're thinking "it's a one score game, all we need is a TD." And maybe there's even more of a boost if you actually convert the 2x to make it 24-17. But when you fail and the score remains 24-15, you're drained because now it's a two-score game. The most you can do - a TD and 2x - won't help. But if it's 24-16, the most you can do in one-possession will result in tying the game. Might be more motivating.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I thought this was gonna be about the game where they went for 2 at the buzzer and lost. A XP FG would have tied it. I thought that was the wrong decision.

Ironically Boomer agreed with that decision (to go for it).


The strategy for that one was sound. Harbaugh said his defense was trashed at that point and he figured they had better odds going for 2 to win vs going into OT with a depleted defense.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I thought this was gonna be about the game where they went for 2 at the buzzer and lost. A XP FG would have tied it. I thought that was the wrong decision.

Ironically Boomer agreed with that decision (to go for it).


The strategy for that one was sound. Harbaugh said his defense was trashed at that point and he figured they had better odds going for 2 to win vs going into OT with a depleted defense.


The thing there is BLT assumes they'll lose the coin toss. And even if you do lose the coin toss, it's defeatist thinking to assume you'll be scored on. Anything can happen - a pass can be tipped, someone can fumble, etc.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I thought this was gonna be about the game where they went for 2 at the buzzer and lost. A XP FG would have tied it. I thought that was the wrong decision.

Ironically Boomer agreed with that decision (to go for it).


The strategy for that one was sound. Harbaugh said his defense was trashed at that point and he figured they had better odds going for 2 to win vs going into OT with a depleted defense.

I agree with that as well.

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