Pretty solid group.

Rivers: 64.9% passer. 63440 yards 421 TDs 209 Ints. 95.2 QB Rating. 134-106 record. 4 losing seasons. No SBs.

Big Ben: 64.4% passer 63844 yards 417 TDs 210 Ints 93.6 QB rating 164-81 record. 1 losing season. 2 SB wins 1 loss.

Eli: 60% passer. 57,023 yards 366 TDs. 244 Ints. 84.1 QB rating. 117-117 record. 5 losing seasons. 2 SB wins.

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Matt Schaub 65% completion percentage 25467 yds 89.5 rating 136 TD / 91 INT

seasons started more than half the games he went 4-2

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Jeez, Eli’s stats are even worse than I imagined them. Not a HOF player.

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That escape from the pocket to launch the helmet catch throw might be a top 3-5 best play in SB history, or at least for the 2000s to present. Not germane to your argument but just had to mention it.

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I was surprised by them as well. I think his highs were very high and they skew perception.

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You got one game to win who are you going with out of those 3? Has to be Eli or Ben. Eli's stats are not the greatest, but he has shown up in big games, esp if the game is in GB or against NE

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I think his last name skews perception as well. He always seemed a perfectly average QB.

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Without looking at the numbers, I would have picked "Big Ben" with zero hesitation.
Looking at the numbers, the answer is still Big Ben.

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That wasn't even Eli's best play in Super Bowl history. The best throw Eli ever made in his life was Manning to Manningham in Superbowl XLVI on their game-winning drive. I do not think Eli was an NFL great in terms of overall production, he WAS a perfectly average QB most of the time, but those two remarkable playoff runs and Super Bowl MVP's will easily get him in the Hall of Fame.

I have always said that if I could pick the prototype style QB I would want to lead my franchise, it would be a Big Ben type. That fucking guy just stood back there like a statue with chaos all around him, guys hanging on his back, and delivered the football. Yes, his best days are way behind him, but when he was at his best I loved watching him stand in there like a boss and throw the ball. You can keep all the new running scrambling QB bullshit, give me a guy that hangs in there, looks over the field and delivers the ball.

That was dope too. But the play I'm talking about was dramatic. The dude was toast. He was in the clutches of the defense. He was being swallowed alive only to escape and launch that bullet to Tyree. Spectacular

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The best HOF argument is between Stafford and Eli, assuming Stafford doesn't win the Super Bowl before he retires.

Would you rather have Eli or Stafford? Eli delivered two Super Bowl rings and he was important in them. Stafford had elite regular season numbers but not much of anything in the playoffs. If Stafford wins the Super Bowl, then do it with Kirk Cousins.

Personally, I think if you are a qb who wins two Super Bowls you deserve to get in unless you were meaningless to the success.

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It can be argued that Ben was a bit player in his first SB if I remember correctly. Wasn't he a rookie?

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is there a stat for who women trust in the bathroom the most? lamentably my stunt double big ben rapelisberger is probably going to have what they call a "rough go" in the old country.

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Okay not a rookie. Just checked. But I seem to remember he was still on training wheels for the first SB. Too lazy to look it up.

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2nd year. He actually was really good in the postseason up until the Super Bowl where he had one of the worst performances ever from a winning quarterback.

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He was a bit player. The refs took care of the rest.

I want to say I remember Ben winning 13 games in a row that SB season.

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They were comparable to the other guys if you exclude the 3 extra seasons they played.

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They were calling that " in the grasp" all season.. the Defense stopped for fear of a penalty.

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Peyton manningesque

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