My favorite as a kid. I used to love when the Bears games were at 3 or at night...we'd always wind up with the noon Buffalo game on NBC. The reason I like the Bills and the Raiders to this day...seemed like they were on every AFC game locally when the Bears weren't on CBS back in the early 90's

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Brady
Montana*
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Favre
Marino
Elway
Staubach
Young

*Montana is the best QB (Joe Cool was the perfect nickname) I ever witnessed for an entire career, but I realize there's no way to argue with Brady's results.

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How do we rank the older guys (pre merger) on this list? Unitas has been mentioned, but what about guys like YA Tittle, Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Len Dawson, etc.

I'm not saying these guys are top 3 or 5 or anything, but you almost have to do a pre 1980 best of and a post 1980 best of. Even a pre/post 1990 perhaps as the game and rules are just so much different now.

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What sets Brady apart to me even besides his obvious Super Bowl success is the revolving cast of characters and styles of play he adjusted to over the years. Yes he had some great receivers and o-lines but he didn't ALWAYS have them and he still managed to keep winning. Brady at number 1 is beyond reproach in my opinion.

thats kind of where my list was at - the game changed so drastically so quickly in the mid- to late- 80's and early 90's comparing Roger Staubach to Drew Brees is virtually impossible.

Yep, and if I had one big game to win I would take Staubach to lead my team.

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Agreed. MANY QBs were 'great' by the standards of the time.

Unitas is probably the one guy that should be on any top ten list regardless of era. TD pass in 47 straight games. That's an insane record that likely will never been broken.

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Hard to argue it unless you get blinded by pro football reference numbers.

You mention results but then have Rodgers third? This isn't a troll job - what are you smoking? Pure homerism on your part. That's like me ranking Lovie Smith #2 on a list of all-time greatest coaches.

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Short of Edelman, it seemed like whenever Brady had a top receiver (especially those mid 2000's Patriots teams), they'd lose (looking at you, Randy Moss)

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Again, there's no fact-based argument against what you've written, but I have watched both and my memory of Montana's cool demeanor as he smoothly moved his team downfield stands out...and I wasn't even a fan.

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Speaking of how the game has changed, here's Staubach's Super Bowl TD to Butch Johnson. Definitely not a catch in 2022!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc2JHKPbeoM

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He was at his greatest in the big moments. 2mins left. 1st and 10 ball on the 20 yd line and a TD needed to win the Superbowl. He is my choice to be QB every time.

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Frank hit it on the head here.

And there is no way I'm putting Brady over Montana. Four of Brady's rings were won by his defense and him being a great game manager. And he was useless in the first Super Bowl v. New York. Maybe both if iirc.

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a few months ago some old NFL films "week in review" half-hour shows started popping up in my YouTube feed from the early 80's so I started watching them, and the violence displayed against QB's and WR's during those times is almost hard to believe. Things have evolved so far that those old shows almost seem like a highlight reel of personal fouls, they are pretty awesome to watch. Back then if you were some random number 83 on some team and you had to run a crosser, I hope you had your life insurance policy up-to-date because it was open season and no ref was going to bail you out.

the old "if you take away all this good stuff and these four Super Bowl wins, he wasn't really that good" argument.

I absolutely hated Montana growing up, but if we are just building the list on mojo.....Montana is probably tops...even over Brady. Still....like the Aikman discussion....Montana was on loaded teams with the best supporting cast possible. That counts for something.

When you look at the older guys, Unitas and Staubach really stand out with some impressive numbers.

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Montana threw to Jerry Rice and John Taylor

Brady threw to David Patton and Deon Branch

Brady
Elway
Montana
Favre
Young
Marino
Moon
Luckman
Manning
Otto Graham

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Stabler is the 70's guy that jumps out to me. He threw a ton of picks but those Oakland teams threw down the field. His completion percentage is surprisingly high for the time too.

Come on man, Luckman and Graham over Unitas?

That is terrible.

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I have him at number two, but he just isn't a guy I'd ever have paid money to watch play except for the fourth quarter of the ATL Super Bowl. Or for his final fourth run against St. Louis when the tired John Madden wanted to play for the tie in regulation.

And I'd have loved to play with him. So there's also that.

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Its a very Nas list...

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Snake and those teams were a helluva lot of fun. Given the time imo he was better than Favre despite what any numbers say.

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otto graham was the shit. Its not crazy to have him on an all-time list.

Luckman was the first franchise quarterback and a Bear. I flipped a coin, and Graham beat Unitas

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It is a great list.

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Or Mitch

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2000 - present:

Manning
Brady
Warner
Rodgers
Ben
Brees
McNabb
Rivers
Favre
Palmer

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