It is currently Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:27 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:50 pm
Posts: 16078
pizza_Place: Malnati's
Quote:
In a series of rapid-fire moves, this is what happened next: The New Orleans Saints traded all six of their picks this year and first- and third-round picks next year to the Redskins to trade up to the fifth spot and grab Williams.

The Redskins then moved back from the 12th spot to No. 7 by swapping first-round picks and added four picks in the deal with Chicago to move up and take Champ Bailey, the player they wanted to take at No. 5.

The Bears dropped down to the 12th spot, got the four extra picks and selected quarterback Cade McNown, the player they would have taken in the seventh spot.


https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.html

Obviously the Ditka trade is an outlier - I assume nothing even remotely close to that has never happened since. A dumbass thing to do even if Williams ended up being great. New Orleans' pick in 2000 ended up being no 2 which Washington used on LaVar Arrington. Washington also had the no 3 pick (to have #2 and #3 - crazy) which they used on Chris Samuels. Perhaps Pace secretly admires Ditka's GM skills.

I'm not sure about Washington - who just added seven picks thanks to dumbass Ditka - trading four picks to Chicago to move up five spots. Obviously they struck gold in the HOF'er Champ Bailey but just thought the price was steep.

Chicago seems to have benefitted the most in the short term thanks to Ditka. Move back five spots and pick up four more picks. Of course I'm writing this from the perspective of 1999. In hindsight they picked a bust at 12, we all know that. At the time, though, seemed like a good deal. Washington though by picking up five 1999 picks and two picks next year (one of which ended up being #2 overall) seemed to benefit most overall.

And all of this may have never happened had Indy not surprised everyone by picking Edgerrin James over Williams.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Posts: 48768
Location: Bohemian Club Annual World Power Consolidation Conference & Golf Outing
pizza_Place: World Fluoridation Conspiracy Pizza & WINGS!
Dallas built a dynasty on the Herschel Walker trade.

_________________
https://twitter.com/DrKenCast


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 40110
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
That was in general a shitty draft, has anyone out of that class made the HOF?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:55 pm
Posts: 32291
Location: Wrigley
pizza_Place: Warren Buffet of Cock
Hall of Famers

Champ Bailey, cornerback from Georgia taken 1st round 7th overall by the Washington Redskins.
Inducted: Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2019.

Edgerrin James, running back from Miami (FL) taken 1st round 4th overall by the Indianapolis Colts.
Inducted: Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2020.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:35 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 77140
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Williams was a better back.

_________________
Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:15 pm
Posts: 40110
Location: Small Fringe Minority
pizza_Place: John's
I don't really think James belongs in the HOF. Only 1 time made 1st team all pro, pedestrian YPC stats, never saw loaded box thanks to Manning and that passing game.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:38 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
Nas wrote:
Williams was a better back.

And if the law and league didn’t have the stupid prohibition on weed he’d be a no doubt hall of famer.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:43 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:55 pm
Posts: 32291
Location: Wrigley
pizza_Place: Warren Buffet of Cock
Weed seems like a good idea for men getting their heads bashed in week after week. Pain management.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:51 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 77140
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Regular Reader wrote:
Nas wrote:
Williams was a better back.

And if the law and league didn’t have the stupid prohibition on weed he’d be a no doubt hall of famer.


Agreed.

_________________
Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:03 pm
Posts: 4323
Location: Lake Wynonah, PA
pizza_Place: Il-Forno in Deerfield
Even if Washington seemed to win the trade, did that help them become a winning team? No because they are run by idiots. The Walker trade basically set up the Cowboys run in the 90s. The Williams trade basically was a big shrug because this draft class was a meh. I always imagined that Ditka made that trade because he had a 2:00 tee time and wanted to make it.

_________________
Krazy Ivan wrote:
Congrats on being better than me, Psycory.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:42 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 77140
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.

_________________
Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:50 pm
Posts: 16078
pizza_Place: Malnati's
Nas wrote:
That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.


Even worse than trading one entire draft plus next year's first and third for Williams?

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:18 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 77140
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.


Even worse than trading one entire draft plus next year's first and third for Williams?


Yeah. At least the Saints got the best running back in the draft and arguably the best player. The 49ers gave up 3 first round picks and a 3rd for possibly the worst quarterback in the draft. Unquestionably the worst quarterback taken in the first round. It doesn't help Parsons was drafted with their pick.

_________________
Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group