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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:57 pm

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W_Z wrote:

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New Orleans was actively dragged backwards by their QB this year

Actively is the key word. There was no reason for them to go out and get Carr except for the (now looking even more real) conspiracy theory of turning the Saints into the Raiders. You already had a QB that was either at his level or slightly +/- but still didn’t have to spend money to find out. Now you’re stuck with a bad QB who no one else will want.

This is Steve Walsh all over again, just in a different era. He even wears the same number.

McAfee was talking about Jon Gruden joining the Saints as OC, wow

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casual fan

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:05 pm

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This thread is depressing as a Steelers fan. They are always "in the hunt", but with Pickett and/or Rudolph as QB next year, there is no chance of anything beyond what happened this year. Maybe, with a favorable matchup/something fluky happening, they win a single playoff game.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:18 pm

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Cowboys and Prescott is interesting also, cap number in his final year is $59.5, do they want to extend him or not?

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veganfan21

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:19 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Cowboys and Prescott is interesting also, cap number in his final year is $59.5, do they want to extend him or not?

Why not. He's the Kirk Cousins of the NFC East.

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Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:21 pm

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casual fan wrote:

Trade a fortune to get into the top 5 or hope the new chargers coach doesn't like Herbert and wants to dump him (just like Josh McDaniel did with Cutler in Denver). Or just trade Tomlin and your entire draft to LA for Herbert.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:51 pm

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man of few opinions wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

It was still a terrible contract and 20 million of dead cap space isn't "nothing"

Sure, I was just highlighting that it is pretty escapable compared to some. He did not truly get a 4-year $160 million fully guaranteed albatross contract, he likely is on his way out of town after next year.

So it only hurts for 3 years and not 4.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:58 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Cowboys and Prescott is interesting also, cap number in his final year is $59.5, do they want to extend him or not?

Why not. He's the Kirk Cousins of the NFC East.

I get the feeling Jerry doesn’t care anymore, he ain’t living forever and will try do whatever it takes to get one more.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:02 pm

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If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:06 pm

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

Would you give Dak a new contract?

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:20 pm

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

Dak
Hurts
Love
Goff
Stafford
Kyler
Tua
Watson
Burrow
Lawrence
Herbert

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:26 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

Dak
Hurts
Love
Goff
Stafford
Kyler
Tua
Watson
Burrow
Lawrence
Herbert

I don’t agree with that all.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:33 pm

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Many analysts have called Caleb the best QB prospect since Luck, so I think it's fairly accurate. 3-4 years of him on a cheap contract is huge.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:37 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Many analysts have called Caleb the best QB prospect since Luck, so I think it's fairly accurate. 3-4 years of him on a cheap contract is huge.

I do not see that at all but I don’t claim to be any guru. Also, I also understand football has changed a lot from when I tend to evaluate certain things but I sure would have liked to have seen him make plays on time thru the offense more.

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veganfan21

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:49 pm

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

Everyone outside of the "we're set" category. Maybe SF makes an exception and gives you Purdy for Caleb.

Quote:

Teams being dragged backwards by their QB and in need of immediate upgrades:

NYG
Raiders
Chicago
NYJ
Pittsburgh
Denver
Atlanta
New England

Wait and see mode:
Tennessee
Indiana
Carolina
Jacksonville
Washington
GB
Cleveland

We're fine for now but will at some point need to make a move

TB
Rams
Minnesota
Dallas
Arizona
Miami
Detroit
NO
Seattle

We're set
Houston
KC
Buffalo
Baltimore
Philly
SD
Cincy
SF

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:47 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Many analysts have called Caleb the best QB prospect since Luck, so I think it's fairly accurate. 3-4 years of him on a cheap contract is huge.

Nobody knows. Say it with confidence and you can get people to believe you. Add jargon and the score will hire you as an expert

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:51 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Trade a first for fields. It isn’t a very high pick, he’s a low cost starter and I think he’d ball out with all that talent that can get down field

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:52 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Trade a first for fields. It isn’t a very high pick, he’s a low cost starter and I think he’d ball out with all that talent that can get down field

What is the plan to get him to throw to open receivers

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man of few opinions

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:10 pm

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Brick wrote:

man of few opinions wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

It was still a terrible contract and 20 million of dead cap space isn't "nothing"

So it only hurts for 3 years and not 4.

It wouldn’t have hurt at all if they had taken my advice and franchised him.

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Hawg Ass

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:19 pm

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Dolphin just can’t give up his Fields LOVE!!!

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:42 am

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If the Bears traded the #1 pick for a QB straight up, who could they get?

Dak
Hurts
Love
Goff
Stafford
Kyler
Tua
Watson
Burrow
Lawrence
Herbert

I don’t agree with that all.

lol at Love. Bears would need to add a couple more 1sts.

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casual fan

Post subject: Re: How many teams are happy with their QB?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:32 am

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good dolphin wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Trade a first for fields. It isn’t a very high pick, he’s a low cost starter and I think he’d ball out with all that talent that can get down field

I'm not even a big fan of Fields, but if "Fields to the Steelers for their 2nd round pick" was announced, I'd be more excited than I am now. Steelers can throw in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to sweeten the deal.....

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veganfan21

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:43 am

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casual fan wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

veganfan21 wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Trade a first for fields. It isn’t a very high pick, he’s a low cost starter and I think he’d ball out with all that talent that can get down field

I'm not even a big fan of Fields, but if "Fields to the Steelers for their 2nd round pick" was announced, I'd be more excited than I am now. Steelers can throw in (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to sweeten the deal.....

So who wants to tell this guy the ugly truth about Mason Pickett, Mitch Fields, and Justin T.rubisky?

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312player

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:24 pm

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casual fan wrote:

Penix could get picked in the 2nd and be starting week 1.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:53 pm

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312player wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Penix could get picked in the 2nd and be starting week 1.

The Steelers better invest in a MUCH better offensive line--in addition to a hyperbaric chamber---if they're going to do that.

I really like certain aspects of Penix's game, but the guy seems more brittle than Joe Biden.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:58 pm

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They are giving up on Pickett already?

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NME

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Caller Bob wrote:

Trevor Lawrence has accomplished slightly more in his short career than Justin Fields. It's amazing the pass he's gotten it seems.

He’s proven he can actually throw the ball. Fields has yet to do that

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:00 pm

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312player wrote:

casual fan wrote:

Penix could get picked in the 2nd and be starting week 1.

No.

If he thought that he got hit hard in the CFB, then his awakening will be beyond rude when, or if he starts an NFL game.

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:09 am

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Caller Bob wrote:

They are giving up on Pickett already?

It was evident after 3 games he was back up level.

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312player

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NME wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Trevor Lawrence has accomplished slightly more in his short career than Justin Fields. It's amazing the pass he's gotten it seems.

He’s proven he can actually throw the ball. Fields has yet to do that

Yeah.. TL has shown a lot, his trajectory is on pace for a top 5 guy.. only a genius would talk about drafting his replacement

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:44 am

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312player wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

They are giving up on Pickett already?

It was evident after 3 games he was back up level.

312player wrote:

Brick wrote:

312player wrote:

Dogshit

The whole team is. Pickett has been equally bad.

Pickett is a rookie and has been improving, do you think Mitch is cut or on that roster next year?

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