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Author:  RFDC [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Barkley will be a better Pro than Luck
You heard it here first.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barkley will be a better Pro than Luck
Leaf will be a better pro than Manning.

People always try to talk themselves out of things given enough time. Luck is going to be really good. So is Barkley though but I think Luck is a high ceiling, high floor kind of player that you can be confident in.

At worst, he's Matt Ryan.
Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:35 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
You heard it here first.

Actually, if you look back to the stanford vs. Usc thread you'll see that you are completely wrong... This isn't the first such occurence...
Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:36 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
RFDC wrote:
You heard it here first.

Actually, if you look back to the stanford vs. Usc thread you'll see that you are completely wrong... This isn't the first such occurence...
This is a pro thread. Yours was in the college section.
Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:37 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
RFDC wrote:
You heard it here first.

Actually, if you look back to the stanford vs. Usc thread you'll see that you are completely wrong... This isn't the first such occurence...
This is a pro thread. Yours was in the college section.

Almost a smile Brick... you're getting closer...
Author:  RFDC [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barkley will be a better Pro than Luck
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Leaf will be a better pro than Manning.

People always try to talk themselves out of things given enough time. Luck is going to be really good. So is Barkley though but I think Luck is a high ceiling, high floor kind of player that you can be confident in.

At worst, he's Matt Ryan.


Eli will be a better QB than Brees is a better example IMO.

Andrew Luck will be a serviceable QB in the league, but nothing special.
Author:  Free Ajent [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:38 pm ]
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree on this one.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:39 pm ]
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I also didn't see you say Barkley would be better. You said he's good.

Do you think Tebow is better than both?
Author:  RFDC [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:39 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and disagree on this one.


That's cool, I am sure you are used to being wrong.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Eli will be a better QB than Brees is a better example IMO.

Andrew Luck will be a serviceable QB in the league, but nothing special.
I assume you mean Rivers. I knew Drew Brees was going to be the best QB in NFL history.

Rivers vs. Eli is a good comparison.
Author:  Free Ajent [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:41 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Free Ajent wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and disagree on this one.


That's cool, I am sure you are used to being wrong.


I'm never wrong...NEVER!!

You'll see!
Author:  RFDC [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Barkley will be a better Pro than Luck
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Eli will be a better QB than Brees is a better example IMO.

Andrew Luck will be a serviceable QB in the league, but nothing special.
I assume you mean Rivers. I knew Drew Brees was going to be the best QB in NFL history.

Rivers vs. Eli is a good comparison.


Yeah.

Brees was with Vick, but that is another example. All the experts had Vick better than Brees. Brees fell to the first pick of the 2nd round and Brees is clearly the better QB.

Rodgers and Alex Smith in 2005 is another example.

Blackledge over Jim Kelly and Dan Marino back in the day.

The experts are often wrong on who is the best QB in the draft.

The whole Suck for Luck deal is going to backfire on the Colts and whoever gets Barkley will be the winner.
Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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Author:  W_Z [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:58 pm ]
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trbl.
Author:  bigfan [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:50 pm ]
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I agree the Barkley could be better, but I think Luck is falling into a perfect situation!

He could end up learning by one of the best ever at the position.

His GM and Scouts have analysed everything possible on the kid and would never leave him WR'less think some teams do!

They would trade anything to get him stud WR's

Basically these guys wont take him unless they think he is a perfect fit. Which is not usually the case.
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:59 am ]
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Luck will be the best QB in the NFL for 7-10 years, especially if he goes to the Colts. He is the most NFL ready QB since Manning & he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.
Author:  W_Z [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:48 am ]
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brady quinn ran a pro style offense at notre dame.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:41 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Luck will be the best QB in the NFL for 7-10 years, especially if he goes to the Colts. He is the most NFL QB since Manning & he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Agreed. RFDC is just trying to be provocative. Griffen is already and will continue to be better than Barkley.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:02 am ]
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Evan Turner/Jon Wall
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Barkley will be a better Pro than Luck
good dolphin wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Luck will be the best QB in the NFL for 7-10 years, especially if he goes to the Colts. He is the most NFL QB since Manning & he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Agreed. RFDC is just trying to be provocative. Griffen is already and will continue to be better than Barkley.


Come on gd, you comfortable agreeing with Scorehead on anything?
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:28 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Robert Gallery will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.



Scorehead wrote:
Tony Mandarich will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Scorehead wrote:
Robert Gallery will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Scorehead wrote:
Brian Bozworth will be the best LB in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:25 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Luck will be the best QB in the NFL for 7-10 years, especially if he goes to the Colts. He is the most NFL QB since Manning & he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Agreed. RFDC is just trying to be provocative. Griffen is already and will continue to be better than Barkley.


Come on gd, you comfortable agreeing with Scorehead on anything?


It makes me as uncomfortable as ball boy at a Fine family christmas party.

Still, I see Barkley as another USC QB shining because of superior talent at every position.

Luck makes his team, his team makes Barkley...and I really like Griffen and have for several years.
Author:  SHARK [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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There's no question that both USC's Matt Barkley & Stanford's Andrew Luck will be playing in the NFL, but I'm not so sure that either QB plays right away in the pros. I think what might hurt Barkley to a certain extent is not playing in meaningful games, thanks to USC being on NCAA probation. That being said, Barkley reportedly has submitted paperwork for the NFL Draft and likely has played his last college game on the USC campus.
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:45 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
It makes me as uncomfortable as ball boy at a Fine family christmas party.

Still, I see Barkley as another USC QB shining because of superior talent at every position.

Luck makes his team, his team makes Barkley...and I really like Griffen and have for several years.


I don't think it is fair to lump Barkley in with other USC QBs and assume he will be like them. He should stand on his own merits. It is not his fault Sanchez and Leinart blow.

Griffen is someone I cannot get a good read on. Some games I think he will be a really good NFL QB, other games not so much.
Author:  SHARK [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:51 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
It makes me as uncomfortable as ball boy at a Fine family christmas party.

Still, I see Barkley as another USC QB shining because of superior talent at every position.

Luck makes his team, his team makes Barkley...and I really like Griffen and have for several years.


I don't think it is fair to lump Barkley in with other USC QBs and assume he will be like them. He should stand on his own merits. It is not his fault Sanchez and Leinart blow.

Griffen is someone I cannot get a good read on. Some games I think he will be a really good NFL QB, other games not so much.

Guys, I don't know about Baylor's Robert Griffin III either. He had a monster game vs. Oklahoma a few weeks ago that some felt had the Baylor QB overtaking Luck and Alabama's Trent Richardson atop many Heisman ballots, but he didn't finish Baylor's game vs. TCU(?) due to a head (?) injury sustained about a week ago at Cowboys Stadium. He'll get some votes, but I'm not sure about his pro status, let alone if he'll be invited to New York for the Heisman Presentation next weekend on ESPN.
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:51 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Robert Gallery will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.



Scorehead wrote:
Tony Mandarich will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Scorehead wrote:
Robert Gallery will be the best OT in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Scorehead wrote:
Brian Bozworth will be the best LB in the NFL for 7-10 years. This kid is a once every 20 year kind of prospect.


Obviously there are no guarantees RPB. Hell, just look at Angelo's track record! If you don't like Luck that's fine.
I think Luck is a cant miss pro, & if he goes to the Colts he will have an even better chance to succeed with Manning mentoring him which probably helps him a little bit.
I like Barkley too.
Author:  KDdidit [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:16 pm ]
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Just clicking on the last pages of sections for entertainment.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:18 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
You heard it here first.

We did?
Author:  FrankDrebin [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:20 pm ]
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Barkley is still in the NFL...
Author:  KDdidit [ Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:17 pm ]
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My back of the napkin math tells me he’ll catch Luck in yardage in 2079 on 2080
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