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Author:  veganfan21 [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
FavreFan wrote:
So MVP race is pretty much Brady, Wentz, and Wilson.

Kamara is easily the front runner for OROY.

I think Lattimore is the DROY. When’s the last time teammates won that?

DPOY? Idk. DeMarcus Lawrence doesn’t feel right.


Stop polluting the Luck thread with your general NFL thoughts, all of which are garbage.
Author:  IMU [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Did I nail this or what.
Author:  IMU [ Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
I nailed this.
Author:  IMU [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
FavreFan wrote:
His team is a mess, he is clearly playing hurt, and his coach and GM don't seem to know what they are doing. He has to share a lot of the blame, but I wouldn't make too much of this bad start. There's still only one QB I would rather have going forward.

All of you put Stafford ahead of Luck in your rankings in that other thread.
Author:  IMU [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I think its great that IMU is an advanced metrics guy and then posts the traditional stats when its convenient for him to do so.

There is no advanced metrics versus traditional stats argument. There is a valid statistics versus flawed statistics argument.

And I was right once again.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
IMU wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
His team is a mess, he is clearly playing hurt, and his coach and GM don't seem to know what they are doing. He has to share a lot of the blame, but I wouldn't make too much of this bad start. There's still only one QB I would rather have going forward.

All of you put Stafford ahead of Luck in your rankings in that other thread.

Yeah, I had him one spot ahead. Basically even. Like I said in that thread, Luck is one of the harder QBs to rank since we just don't know yet how he's going to return from injury or if he can even stay healthy.

I didn't have Dalton ranked ahead of him though :lol:
Author:  IMU [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Maybe you should. Dalton is hot to start the season.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
IMU wrote:
Maybe you should. Dalton is hot to start the season.

Is Stafford? :lol:
Author:  IMU [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
FavreFan wrote:
IMU wrote:
Maybe you should. Dalton is hot to start the season.

Is Stafford? :lol:

Well Stafford had the atrocious Game 1, but was excellent in Game 2.

But we have Stafford's excellent body of work keeping us comfortable in our assessment that he is the superior QB. Since you questioned how good Stafford would be going forward in this thread, he has put up a 94.7 Rating, with 57 TD and 24 Int, 65% completion percentage and 7.5 Y/A.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
IMU wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
IMU wrote:
Maybe you should. Dalton is hot to start the season.

Is Stafford? :lol:

Well Stafford had the atrocious Game 1, but was excellent in Game 2.

But we have Stafford's excellent body of work keeping us comfortable in our assessment that he is the superior QB. Since you questioned how good Stafford would be going forward in this thread, he has put up a 94.7 Rating, with 57 TD and 24 Int, 65% completion percentage and 7.5 Y/A.

And Luck had 31 TDs, 13 INTs, and a 96.4 QB rating in his one relatively healthy season since this debate, so I am still confident Luck will be better going forward. Stafford's been way healthier so that's why he gets the edge in the 13th and 14th spots on the QB list... for now.
Author:  America [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Stafford never built on that monster 2011 season. I'm not even sure its his fault, the Lions never had a cohesive plan to build around him. That 2012 off-season after he threw for 40+ TD and 5000+ yards was defined by...extending everyone they had already. Now that included Megatron getting huge money but still, that was the year the Bears acquired Brandon Marshall for two 3rds. Could you imagine what Megatron-Marshall would've been like for Detroit? I dont even have to mention specific misses because they just did nothing to get better that year. They went into 2012 with Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler and Titus Young as their weapons after Megatron. How could they not sense the opportunity they had there? IIRC Stafford rookie deal came before the CBA fixed rookie contracts but he there was still a window there to go hog wild for an off-season or two to make a run.

Stafford with a competent organisation I genuinely believe would go down as elite. Every bit as good as the guys we call elite today. But it didn't work out that way for him.
Author:  BigW72 [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
America wrote:
Stafford with a competent organisation I genuinely believe would go down as elite. Every bit as good as the guys we call elite today. But it didn't work out that way for him.

You've just stated exactly what makes someone NOT elite.

Brady is elite.
Rodgers is elite.
P. Manning was elite.
They are the guys that put the entire team on their shoulders and make them competitive. Staffford is NOT this.
Author:  America [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
We will never know the truth about Brady & his coach. One of the great all time NFL mysteries if one created the other or if separated the Patriots enjoy near the success they have.
Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
I heard it once and now I can only hear "Stat Padford" whenever anybody mentions Stafford
Author:  America [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
KDdidit wrote:
I heard it once and now I can only hear "Stat Padford" whenever anybody mentions Stafford

I think that was Caller Bob.
Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
The Luck/Stafford debate, if could ever even call it one, is over. Luck looks awesome again.
Author:  pittmike [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Luck looks like he is missing genetic material.
Author:  newper [ Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
FavreFan wrote:
The Luck/Stafford debate, if could ever even call it one, is over. Luck looks awesome again.

How about the Luck/Rivers debate for stupidest looking face?
Author:  Tad Queasy [ Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Luck looks like Haywire from the original Prison Break.
Author:  billypootons [ Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
he hasnt been sacked in 2 months? let's give some credit to the o-line for once... that and for playing in a shitty division
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
billypootons wrote:
he hasnt been sacked in 2 months? let's give some credit to the o-line for once... that and for playing in a shitty division

O Line has been great and deserves a lot of praise too. I don't think the credit is an either/or thing. Luck has played like a MVP and the line has also been great
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Image
Author:  Nas [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
FavreFan wrote:
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Lots of shitty teams.
Author:  FrankDrebin [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
Made a great off-balance throw yesterday after shrugging off a pass rusher.
Author:  312player [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
pittmike wrote:
312player wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Luck is in a pretty similar position when the bears got cutler.




Luck is much better, he's been hit more than any other QB in the NFL since he's been in the league..and that's including the games he's missed..his line and run game are pretty lousy.


You might want to review news clips of Cutler in Denver. You just make up your mind about shit and spout.



Get your head fucked, I'm right.. You're wrong u fake ads scientist.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
312player wrote:
pittmike wrote:
312player wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Luck is in a pretty similar position when the bears got cutler.




Luck is much better, he's been hit more than any other QB in the NFL since he's been in the league..and that's including the games he's missed..his line and run game are pretty lousy.


You might want to review news clips of Cutler in Denver. You just make up your mind about shit and spout.



Get your head fucked, I'm right.. You're wrong u fake ads scientist.

What is an ads scientist?
Author:  312player [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
I hate this ass to ads auto correct.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
312player wrote:
I hate this ass to ads auto correct.

So you meant to type ass scientist?
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Andrew Luck
ZephMarshack wrote:
Luck isn't a bad QB, he's just nowhere near as great as he was anointed by the media almost immediately.

Kinda seems like he is
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