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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
That really does suck. Literally the best game I’ve ever seen him play before he went down. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
shakes wrote: Lonzo stringing together some good games. Helped beat Westbrook and OKC in OKC last night in OT, scoring 5 points in OT including crucial deep 3. Finished with 18/10a/6r. I've noticed you never list the Fga for this bum |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
FavreFan wrote: That really does suck. Literally the best game I’ve ever seen him play before he went down. You're too smart to still be on this genius train, smh |
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| Author: | shakes [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
312player wrote: shakes wrote: Lonzo stringing together some good games. Helped beat Westbrook and OKC in OKC last night in OT, scoring 5 points in OT including crucial deep 3. Finished with 18/10a/6r. I've noticed you never list the Fga for this bum You noticed that huh? Here are the 4 posts I made prior to the one you quoted, all located on the previous page of this thread, same place as the post you quoted. Also, the game you quoted Lonzo was 7-17. Not good, but hardly awful. Awful would be what the guy he was guarding shot, Russel Westbrook. He was 7-30 in the same game. Also, you're a fucking asshole for trolling this thread same day it's announced he's out 4-6 weeks. Go kill yourself. Quote: 20 points on 8/13 shooting4/6 from downtown, 9 boards, 12 assists, 2 turnovers, 2 steals, 1 block. Quote: Zo ended up with 19 pts on 7/16 shooting, 5 boards and 6 helpers. 4 turnovers were too many, needs to tighten that up. Quote: 21 pts on 8/15 shooting (4/8 from 3), 7 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals in a road win over Dallas tonight. Quote: Lonzo took it to the Bulls last night after getting off to a rough start. 19 pts on 8/17, 8 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals.
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| Author: | shakes [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Lonzo's "camp" is saying that if he's traded for AD he hopes that a 3rd team is involved and he ends up in either New York or Chicago. Make it happen GarPax!!! |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
I don’t think Lonzo’s already broken down and over trained body can handle the Chicago or New York winters tightening up his joints. Needs to stay down south so he can live and play 41 games in a warm weather climate. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
shakes wrote: Lonzo's "camp" is saying that if he's traded for AD he hopes that a 3rd team is involved and he ends up in either New York or Chicago. Make it happen GarPax!!! Agreed. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
shakes wrote: Lonzo's "camp" is saying that if he's traded for AD he hopes that a 3rd team is involved and he ends up in either New York or Chicago. Make it happen GarPax!!! New Orleans has 2 better guards right now, I don't want him here..he sucks, Davis isn't getting moved until Boston gets a crack at the negotiating anyway. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
312player wrote: shakes wrote: Lonzo's "camp" is saying that if he's traded for AD he hopes that a 3rd team is involved and he ends up in either New York or Chicago. Make it happen GarPax!!! New Orleans has 2 better guards right now, I don't want him here..he sucks, Davis isn't getting moved until Boston gets a crack at the negotiating anyway. Yep and the word is that NO is attempting to make a move which might him entice him to stay. They actually have a few movable pieces and having Okafor allows them to have flexibility. They can move Randle and Mirotic with a combination of other guys and get a solid return from the deal. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
long time guy wrote: 312player wrote: shakes wrote: Lonzo's "camp" is saying that if he's traded for AD he hopes that a 3rd team is involved and he ends up in either New York or Chicago. Make it happen GarPax!!! New Orleans has 2 better guards right now, I don't want him here..he sucks, Davis isn't getting moved until Boston gets a crack at the negotiating anyway. Yep and the word is that NO is attempting to make a move which might him entice him to stay. They actually have a few movable pieces and having Okafor allows them to have flexibility. They can move Randle and Mirotic with a combination of other guys and get a solid return from the deal. I'd like to see him on Boston with Kyrie and Tatum, should restore power to the East. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Sounds like Ball is getting shipped out, atta boy Magic. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Lakers defense has gone from top 10 in the league to bottom 3 since Lonzo got hurt. https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-defense-lonzo-ball-20190211-story.html |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
LeBron trying to trade the team to NOLA has something to do with that, Lonzo can play D but that ain't good enough for a #2 pick |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
shakes wrote: Lakers defense has gone from top 10 in the league to bottom 3 since Lonzo got hurt. https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-defense-lonzo-ball-20190211-story.html Not all that surprising |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
best defensive guard in the entire NBA. Lakers are completely lost with him out and Lebron the sieve in the lineup. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
If I knew how to post a gif it would be clay Davis. Sheeeiiiittt |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh He still sucks relative to his draft status. And he still ain't worth 2 percent of all this hype. Worst thread in the NBA section's history. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh He still sucks relative to his draft status. And he still ain't worth 2 percent of all this hype. Worst thread in the NBA section's history.  I didn’t realize this was 38 pages. You’re not wrong. His inability to stay healthy is his biggest flaw so far imo. Availability is a skill and you’re not gonna improve if you get hurt every other month. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh He still sucks relative to his draft status. And he still ain't worth 2 percent of all this hype. Worst thread in the NBA section's history. Exactly |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh I purposely avoid anything posted by that idiot Shakes. I don't give things that he posts the time of day and I've found that it works for me. Lonzo Ball is a bust. Nothing changes that. He is a flop. An unadulterated flop. You continuing to tout how good he happens to be only further illustrates how terribly flawed your player evals happen to be. He stinks. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh I purposely avoid anything posted by that idiot Shakes. I don't give things that he posts the time of day and I've found that it works for me. Lonzo Ball is a bust. Nothing changes that. He is a flop. An unadulterated flop. You continuing to tout how good he happens to be only further illustrates how terribly flawed your player evals happen to be. He stinks. He’s a bust so far. You’re going over the top with it. He’s not an Anthony Bennett type bust. He’s gonna have a 12+ year career if he can stay even somewhat healthy. I still think he can be pretty good and unlike shakes I’ve never said he was a star. His defensive ability was immediately apparent though and he really is a game changer on that side of the ball. But yeah he’s been terrible offensively so far and there’s no other way to describe his offensive game. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: 312 and ltg nowhere to be found after the truth bomb shakes just dropped. Smh I purposely avoid anything posted by that idiot Shakes. I don't give things that he posts the time of day and I've found that it works for me. Lonzo Ball is a bust. Nothing changes that. He is a flop. An unadulterated flop. You continuing to tout how good he happens to be only further illustrates how terribly flawed your player evals happen to be. He stinks. He’s a bust so far. You’re going over the top with it. He’s not an Anthony Bennett type bust. He’s gonna have a 12+ year career if he can stay even somewhat healthy. I still think he can be pretty good and unlike shakes I’ve never said he was a star. His defensive ability was immediately apparent though and he really is a game changer on that side of the ball. But yeah he’s been terrible offensively so far and there’s no other way to describe his offensive game. He can remain in the league and still be a bust. Kwame Brown played 10+ and he is still a bust. Ball looks like a rotation player at best. N.O. turned down a deal involving him and 2 other guys. He was the worst player of the 3. He is easily out of the top 10 if that draft is held today. Probably 15. Bust |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Shut down for the year. Bad year to be a Lakers fan. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Kid is a bust. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Me and LTG win again. This shit is too easy. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
312player wrote: Me and LTG win again. This shit is too easy. you win because a guy has had a bunch of injuries his first two seasons? Yea i don't think so. Lonzo having bad luck with injuries, but his play on the court has been very good. Possibly the best defensive guard in the league, great at getting a team to play with pace. Shot was getting better this year. He'll come back strong with a whole offseason to work. Gloating when a guy gets hurt is not a good look for anyone. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Being injury prone is just another check mark on the bad side of the ledger. |
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| Author: | FrankDrebin [ Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2632 ... unted-espn Los Angeles Lakers guard Lonzo Ball has severed ties with a co-founder of Big Baller Brand over concerns that the longtime family friend has a criminal past and also has not adequately accounted for the whereabouts of roughly $1.5 million from Ball's personal and business accounts. Ball told ESPN that he believes that Alan Foster, a friend of Lonzo's father for almost a decade who owns 16.3 percent of Big Baller Brand, had "used his access to my business and personal finances to enrich himself. As a result, I have decided to sever all ties with Alan, effective immediately." Foster has served as the business manager of all of the Ball family's companies, including Big Baller Brand -- which was formed as a limited liability company in 2014. Foster developed a close friendship with the Ball family beginning around 2010, when Lonzo and Foster's son became friends as seventh-graders. It was Foster, Lonzo's father, LaVar Ball, has said, who helped convince him to create a shoe and apparel company featuring his three basketball playing sons rather than allow Lonzo to sign one of the guaranteed multimillion-dollar endorsement deals that had been offered by more-established shoe companies such as Nike and Adidas. According to documents and emails reviewed by ESPN, questions about Foster's business decisions and communication were first raised last fall to Lonzo and LaVar by Lonzo's financial adviser. That adviser, Humble Lukanga of Life Line Financial Group, alleged in an October email that Lonzo's personal taxes and Big Baller's taxes could not be completed on time due to an inability to account for the whereabouts of $1.5 million. Sources close to the Ball family told ESPN that Lonzo expressed his concerns about Foster to his father several times over the past few months but deferred to LaVar to manage the situation. It wasn't until this week, the same sources said, that LaVar fully reviewed the email warnings and documents from Lukanga, as he had been traveling overseas with his younger sons in the fall. The sources described LaVar as "stunned" when the emails and documents were read to him. LaVar declined comment but issued a statement to ESPN calling the situation "devastating." "I've always believed in the best in people. Regretfully, I put my complete trust in Alan Foster to manage my son's business affairs," LaVar said. "At the end of the day, family comes first, and I support Zo wholeheartedly. Together, we will make this right." When contacted by ESPN last week to discuss his past and the Big Baller Brand, Foster initially offered to arrange an in-person meeting alongside LaVar at the Ball estate in Chino Hills, California. But repeated subsequent attempts via email, phone calls and text messages this week to reach Foster for his perspective were met with no response. Late Thursday night, he suggested meeting in person at the Ball estate on Friday, but then late on Friday suggested mid-next week because he was "super busy"; he otherwise offered no comment. Two weeks ago, in an interview with Lonzo that covered various on- and off-court topics, an ESPN reporter asked him questions about the status of Big Baller Brand and also whether he had been aware that Foster had a prior criminal record that involved financial misdeeds. In 2002, Foster was sentenced to more than seven years in prison after pleading guilty to one count of mail fraud and two counts of money laundering as part of a scheme that defrauded 70 investors of $4 million, according to federal court records obtained by ESPN. Foster was also ordered to pay $3.7 million in restitution to victims. Lonzo said he had not been aware of that history and that he would check into the matter. Multiple sources close to the Balls told ESPN that Lonzo soon after began asking those close to him questions about Foster's past and also began to revisit the allegations made by Lukanga. The same sources told ESPN that, last week, Lonzo's personal manager, Darren Moore, raised questions with Lonzo and Lukanga about a separate matter involving Foster -- taxes related to income from the Ball family's lucrative Facebook Watch reality series, "Ball in the Family." Moore told ESPN that he had been unsuccessfully trying to determine -- through Foster -- whether expenses and revenues related to the series had been allocated properly by Foster. Moore declined to answer additional questions but issued a statement this week distancing himself from Foster. "Alan Foster was more than a trusted adviser," Moore said. "He was a mentor, a father figure and someone Lonzo and I respected, loved and listened to. ... I'm proud of Lonzo for waking up and taking back his power. Together, we will fight for justice." According to incorporation documents filed in Wyoming obtained by ESPN, Lonzo owns 51 percent of Big Baller Brand, and his father, 16.4 percent. Lonzo's mother and Foster each own 16.3 percent. Though Lonzo said in a statement that he has severed all ties with Foster, it was unclear Thursday how the business ties would be untangled. Sources close to the Balls said Lonzo first made the decision independent of his father. It also remained unclear Thursday what business ties remain between LaVar and Foster. Editor's Picks The first significant concerns about Lonzo's and Big Baller Brand's finances came in the fall, when Lukanga sent two emails to Lonzo and LaVar about a financial review that raised questions. In an October email sent to Lonzo and his father under the subject line "Urgent - $1.5 million Dollars Missing," Lukanga wrote that he had been unsuccessful in having Foster "track down where $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH HAS [gone]." Lukanga wrote that he had repeatedly asked Foster about transactions totaling that amount, but Foster "won't show any invoices or documentation of these expenses. He won't even give me the number to the vendors he says he paid. I'VE NEVER SEEN A COMPANY OPERATE BY WITHDRAWING MILLIONS IN CASH ... Only you and Alan can withdraw cash and I know you didn't take out $1.5 million dollars ... SO WHERE IS THE MONEY???" Lukanga attached two itemized reports to the email that he alleged showed unexplained cash withdrawals from Big Baller Brand and transactions between BBB and Foster's business, Marathon Consulting Inc. "Over $1.5 million dollars has disappeared and he has wired over $474,000 to himself through Marathon Consulting (see attached report). So close to $2 million dollars has touched Alan's hands but $1.5 million of it has disappeared in cash and can't be tracked," Lukanga wrote. The whereabouts of the $1.5 million remains unclear. By late November, Lukanga no longer represented Lonzo, though he was rehired by Lonzo in recent days. "My purpose in this lifetime is to protect, serve and educate families; especially black families," Lukanga wrote in his October email. "It's breaking my heart to see the Ball family being taken advantage of; I love the family, things aren't right with the companies ... ." Lonzo said in his statement to ESPN that he has directed Lukanga, Moore and his agent, Harrison Gaines, to help him sort out the matter. "This has been a very difficult decision as I had a great deal of love and respect for Alan," Lonzo said. "But the time has come for me to take responsibility for my own career both on and off the court." Lonzo's agent, Gaines, issued a statement to ESPN this week saying he had been "on the periphery of the rest of the Ball family businesses" and that "Lonzo has now empowered me to take a more active role in his career." In his statement to ESPN this week, Lukanga referenced his longtime financial advising business, Life Line Financial Group, which counts entertainers such as Issa Rae and athletes such as Houston Texans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins among its clients. "We are relieved that Lonzo has taken the necessary steps at age 21 to remove Foster from any involvement in his business affairs," Lukanga wrote. "We remain committed to helping Lonzo take full control over his financial future." Sources close to the Ball family told ESPN that Lukanga in the fall resigned his position advising Lonzo because of his concerns over the tax issues and the lack of explanation he'd received about the alleged missing money. The Los Angeles Lakers declined comment Thursday to ESPN about Lonzo's personal and business matters. In addition to his work with Big Baller Brand and LaVar's Junior Basketball Association, a professional league for developing players, Foster appeared in almost every episode of "Ball in the Family." He was often shown consulting with LaVar on decisions that affected the family or business. In one episode, Foster was shown trying to find out why players from JBA have had trouble collecting on their paychecks. In an interview with ESPN the Magazine in 2017, LaVar raved about Foster. "This dude is one of the smartest suckers ever," LaVar said. "He knows how everything goes. We had shirts made that said 'Team Ball' [and] 'UnbelievaBall.' And he [Foster] said, 'LaVar, your creativity is crazy. Let's create your brand, man. Your brand is bigger than anything. Somebody going to run away with your s---, man.' "He [Foster] was like, 'I'll tell you what. You're going to put all the work in with your boys. I'll come back and run the agency. Whatever you need me to do. Let me do it, though.'" Foster met the Ball family not long after being released from prison for his role in the 2002 financial scheme. Foster was already facing the financial crimes charges when he was found guilty in Los Angeles County on a 1999 citation for carrying a concealed handgun without a license. And in September 2009, while still under probation for the financial scheme conviction, Foster was arrested on a felony-level violation of his supervised release that is not specified in court documents. He was sentenced to five months in prison and was released in February 2010, which would have been about a year before he met the Ball family. Of the financial scheme, Joseph Zwicker, the lead prosecutor in the case, told ESPN: "They targeted African-Americans that they got to know through churches and by other means. And they made various misrepresentations to them about their ability to return large sums on investments, which were false. They admitted that." Lonzo, seen as the future of the Lakers before the arrival of LeBron James, was shut down this season with a severe ankle injury after 47 games. It marked his third separate ankle injury, which left the Lakers searching for what could be the root issue of his troubles -- including asking about his Big Baller Brand shoes. "Yeah, they talked to me," Lonzo Ball told ESPN two weeks ago. "They asked me about it, and I told 'em, 'I feel comfortable. If I wasn't comfortable, I wouldn't play in 'em. If I didn't play in [his signature BBB shoes], I'd play in Kobe [Bryant's signature Nike shoe]. I work out in [LeBron James' signature Nike shoe], but that's because they're heavier." Lonzo also said he told the Lakers he was open to making adjustments -- "just minor things," he said -- to his Big Baller Brand shoes if needed. According to two sources close to the family, over the past two years, the Lakers, too, expressed concerns to Foster over numerous customer complaints about Big Baller Brand made to the Better Business Bureau, which gave the company a failing grade in 2018. Last year, the bureau reported receiving 184 complaints over the past three years, mostly involving problems sending correct merchandise, shipping orders on time, and not providing information or responding to questions about delivery status. "They still have an F with us," Blair Looney, president of the Better Business Bureau of Central California and Inland Empire Counties, told ESPN in January. "We are continuing to work with them on straightening things out." Looney said it appears that Big Baller doesn't have the structure in place to handle online orders, and progress was going "slower than we would like to see." "We are trying to help Big Baller recognize what the issues are with their customers to help them fix those," he said. "And they haven't, in our opinion, dedicated the resources it takes to get it done." The Federal Trade Commission has recorded about 200 complaints made against Big Baller Brand from April 2017 through mid-January, most of which are duplicates of those made to the Better Business Bureau. The FTC enforces federal laws pertaining to internet commerce, but FTC officials, citing policy, do not comment on whether the agency is investigating a company. ESPN NBA reporter Malika Andrews contributed to this report. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lonzo: Year 2 |
Probably stole it for Lonzo’s Dad. |
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