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Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:02 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I don't know how you think that sort of thing is settled but that has always been the way it has been settled. He dominated the matchup.


The NBA is no longer a game of matchups.


If there is going to be a debate about the best this or best that shouldn't it be based upon out playing the guy that plays your position. If Curry's best title is based upon out playing Etwaun Moore and not Westbrook then he is not the best anything.


Jordan's best counterpart outside of Drexler was who? Dan Majerle?



Jordan had to outplay Dumars, Harper, and Majerle, Drexler Starks during his career.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:03 pm ]
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So, yeah... he wasn't that good then. Also, only two of those guys were in the Finals.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:05 pm ]
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Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
So, yeah... he wasn't that good then. Also, only two of those guys were in the Finals.


Forgot about Miller too. It's not Jordan's fault that the West didn't really have quality two's that made the finals. I wouldn't blame Curry if he only had Delly, but once he gets the top guys he has to be able to outplay them. Hell Delly gave him a little trouble for a couple of games last finals also.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.


I don't disagree with that. I still don't think that makes Irving better.

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.

Just not true.

Klay had a great game 6, but Curry was 1 shy of a triple double in the same game.

over the whole series Curry was better.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:08 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.

Just not true.

Klay had a great game 6, but Curry was 1 shy of a triple double in the same game.

over the whole series Curry was better.


No he wasn't.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:09 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.


I don't disagree with that. I still don't think that makes Irving better.


Coach K thought so during the FIBA games. He started Irving over Curry.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:12 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.


I don't disagree with that. I still don't think that makes Irving better.


Coach K thought so during the FIBA games. He started Irving over Curry.


LTG, who is better: Reggie Miller or Ricky Davis? You're BS'ing if you say Miller.

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:27 pm ]
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Jordan had to outplay Dumars, Harper, and Majerle, Drexler Starks during his career.



you forgot Vincent Askew
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Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:53 pm ]
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Curry's move on Dellavedova :lol:

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:55 pm ]
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So the team with Green on it is mad that their guy got hit in the nuts :lol:

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:56 pm ]
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Great input from ABC's official to give his opinion on calls, Steve whomever: i have no fucking clue, back to you guys.

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:56 pm ]
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I don't understand how this asshole slaps Iggy in the nuts and it's just assumed to be an accident, and now he's gonna get T'd up ?

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:57 pm ]
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Overheard in the ref scrum just now:

"Candlesticks always make a nice gift"

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:58 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
I don't understand how this asshole slaps Iggy in the nuts and it's just assumed to be an accident, and now he's gonna get T'd up ?

no one got T'd up

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:59 pm ]
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Yes after the 1/2 hour review

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:59 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Think about this. In the two most important series of Curry's career he wasn't even the best player on his own team.


I don't disagree with that. I still don't think that makes Irving better.


Coach K thought so during the FIBA games. He started Irving over Curry.


LTG, who is better: Reggie Miller or Ricky Davis? You're BS'ing if you say Miller.


Miller.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:01 pm ]
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Jesus, how unnecessary was that 10 minute delay?

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:03 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:

Once they switched Thompson onto Westbrook to start game five that settled whatever debate that may have existed. It was an admittance that Westbrook was the better player. It's hard to say that Curry is better if the coach admits that Curry can't check him.


vegan wrote:
LTG, who is better: Reggie Miller or Ricky Davis? You're BS'ing if you say Miller.


long time guy wrote:

Miller.


Miller couldn't guard Ricky Davis in one on one matchups.

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:06 pm ]
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1 point game before the extended ref review of delly's nut shot to iggy, GS comes out of the break and goes up by 10. Thanks, Obama.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:06 pm ]
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Reggie Miller is a hall of famer. Davis isn't I'm sure your evidence is suspect. Westbrook outplayed Curry. Curry doesn't just duck Westbrook either. He tends to duck a number of good point guards. He was outplayed. He shot badly during the games against Westbrook also. Van Gundy just blew up the myth about his injuries too.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:07 pm ]
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Cavs really need to take this game while Steph and allay are not playing well.

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:09 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
Cavs really need to take this game while Steph and allay are not playing well.



But they won't

Irving can't stop Livingston :lol:

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:10 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Cavs really need to take this game while Steph and allay are not playing well.



But they won't

Irving can't stop Livingston :lol:

Livingston is clearly a better player than Kyrie

Author:  Bagels [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:10 pm ]
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Sorry, putting him on Barnes won't work either :lol:

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:11 pm ]
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I once played Shaun Livingston in a Gus Macker 3-on-3 as a youth.

We didn't win.

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:11 pm ]
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Westbrook would go for 30 a game against Irving.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:13 pm ]
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They are losing but Irving is clearly out playing Curry. We're not going to lower the pitcher's mound either. Nice rhetorical sleight of hand though.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:15 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Bagels wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Cavs really need to take this game while Steph and allay are not playing well.



But they won't

Irving can't stop Livingston :lol:

Livingston is clearly a better player than Kyrie


When they played together Cleveland let Livingston walk.

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