You're a sensitive little bitch.

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Warriors in 5 just don't like the way Cleveland matches up will GS.....shit they lost 2 to Toronto!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I have no idea, I guess the Warriors.


Great Matchup for the casual fan though (ABC execs are still doing coke right now from last nights win). Ill probably watch most of the games.

says the guy calling people names on a message board.

I'm pretty sure that's what message boards are for, though.

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This is a stupid post. My original prediction was Golden State would win the series in 5 games, and you wanted me to admit I was wrong after a game 1 loss?

When I am wrong, I admit it. Please stop suggesting otherwise.

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Quite possibly the most silly NBA thing you ever posted.

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No on the first, at least not at the beginning. Same for Matty. Again, that's why they were competitive and it went to six. So you think Love will guard who? Irving, who?

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GS in 6 ...the refs get the cavs a win they shouldn't get...

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You were so thoroughly discredited during the last series that any opinion that you promote should immediately be viewed with skepticism. It's not just that you were wrong, you were way off. It's not that important to be wrong on a message board but stop with silly pronouncement like denunciations all time. Too much "and that's the bottom line cause farve fan said so" spiel.

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I'm hoping this series of better than the OKC V GSW. That was pretty shitty.

Love will check Green and Irving will take Curry. I hope it stays that way throughout the series but I think they will switch Shumpert and Delladova unto him. I think they will Irving and Della dova together some and switch him off of him. I hope they dont. I love the individual match up part of the NBA. There will be some during this series.

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Can't wait to see who win the "Totally Unnecessary Yelling" Championship.

This is why I don't mind you. Posts like these are gold. To recap, I said GS would win in 5 and it wouldn't be a close series. GS won in 7, and it was a close series. Being off by two games and underestimating the Thunder means any future NBA opinion I share should be discredited. You're awesome.


But yeah, you can cut this shit out. You, I, and most people here share opinions in a declarative fashion. Of course we think our opinions are right. Otherwise, they wouldn't be our opinions. That's how it works.

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You touted the greatness of the Spurs all season too.

It's not just that you were off. You missed by a mile. Anyone that knows the NBA knows OKC had the talent to play with G.S. I called it earlier in the season and you attempted to discredit me then too.
"Fluke" "win only if Stephen Curry has a bad game" won't be competitive all disproved. It came down to the last minute of game 7. OKC was almost the equal of G.S and you had the series as a rout.

You also stated that they may win a game if Curry is off. Hardly sounds like a definitive one game prediction to me. For the record the eye test suggested that they were as talented as G.S.

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I've touted the greatness of the Spurs on this board since 2007. They had a great season once again.

The rest of your post is a bunch of nothing that I already rebutted.

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I've digressed too much. Isaiah Thomas, Greg Anthony, Kenny Smith have all marveled at the skill set of Kyrie Irving yet in your world it's silly to think that he has the most complete skill set of any point guard in the league. Mind you that you couldn't provide reasons as to why he doesn't. At the very least it's still not silly to think that.

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Steph Curry is arguably the best offensive player in the history of the NBA. Kyrie is a very talented offensive PG who might be the 2nd best offensive PG in the league, but there are no stats, metrics, eye test, whatever that suggests he's even on the same planet as Steph when it comes to scoring prowess.

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No he is not. He has had a helluva 2 year run and the only thing he does better is shoot. He doesn't have the handle of Irving nor the pull up game nor can he finish like Irving. As Jeff Van Gundy has correctly stated, Irving is as offensively gifted as any point in the league. Also stated that he doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone.

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Jeff Van Gundy is wrong. Again, every possible statistic that you can come up with will back me up on this. Steph has just as good of ball handling skills as Kyrie, and is a much better mid range shooter as well. A glance at their shooting spray charts will back this up. Irving might be a better finisher, but Steph is pretty awesome at that too, and he's so much better at shooting 3 pointers that it makes comparing them as scorers just silly. When Irving starts averaging 30 ppg with some of the most efficient true shooting percentages ever recorded, then you can compare them.

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Didn't you also say that OKC was going to beat GS?

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I actually am very comfortable comparing them right now. Be careful with the Stat game. Russell Westbrook demonstrated that he was a better player last series. Didn't need stats to see that. Last finals Irving outplayed Curry in the one game he played. It was on one leg too. And he guarded Curry. I remember Curry ducking that game too.

Kyrie Irving was also regarded as the better player when both played on that International team too. Remember it's silly to suggest that his skill set is better though.

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Pretty much none of this is true.

Edit: the last sentence is true. The rest is crap.

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1. He outplayed Curry during the one finals Game he played in. He also was injured. Fact

2. He was the better player during FIBA the year both played. Irving was MVP. Fact.

3. Westbrook clearly demonstrated that he was better last series. Once Curry was taken off of him that ended the debate. Fact

Simply stating that something isn't true without ever providing anything in the way of supporting details makes for a weak argument.

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Yep you're right. It's just silly to think that his skill set is better.

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This is such a dumb argument. Kyrie Irving is not as good of an offensive player as Steph Curry. You wonder why people make declarative statements, and it's because you posit ridiculous opinions like this.

Steph Curry: 30.1 PPG. 31.5 PER. .669 TS%. 13.8 OWS

Kyrie: 19.6 PPG, 19.9 PER, .540 TS%, 3.2 OWS


The eye test is important, and stats don't tell you the whole story. We agree on this. But you must be blind if your eye test tells you Irving is a better offensive player than Steph Curry. As I said, Irving isn't close to him.

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My statement was complete skill set. Stats have little to do with that. As usual spin job is at work. Some of this stuff would be libelous the way that you and others fabricate stuff.

To bring up shooting statistics is fallacious because I have conceded that. Irving also started slow after coming off injury so his avg would be lower.

I just provided evidence for my argument. Most of Curry's work was done against Delly and it is pretty obvious that Irving's skills are equal if not better than Curry's. And it's on a hobbled leg no less. You can decide for yourself.

To bring up stats when it's not warranted is the ridiculous part.

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You are talking about them like they are 19 year old prospects. Both are veteran all stars. If Kyrie Irving's skill set produces the stats I laid out, then it's not close to Steph's skill set. No matter how you want to spin this, you are wrong.

Just hilarious how quick you were to shoot down all the stats that show just how fucking dumb your opinion on this is.

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No, KS.

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I conceded the shooting stuff in the beginning so you are sort of preaching to the choir. Irvings stats will always be suppressed he plays with LeBron James. He has also had explosive games during his career.

You stated "eye test" too. Well I just provided it and you immediately dismissed it as you did the opinions of experts, 3 of which also played the same position. That's how dumb your opinion is on this.

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