please keep it that way

You're a sensitive little bitch.

says the guy calling people names on a message board.

Nah gotta disagree. You admitted you were wrong only after Golden State was down 3-1. You referred to Game 1 as a fluke. Admitting you're wrong only after being left without any other options isn't really admitting you're wrong.

Kyrie Irving is the most offensively skilled point guard in the league.

I remember J.R. Smith being off against the Warriors. Delladova played well early then faded late. They won't be able to hide Curry on J.R. its going to hurt them. he is much better offensively than Robertson. He will be able to rest against Shumpert and Delladova though. I expect Irving will check Curry even with his defensive limitations. Draemond Green was exposed against OKC. The notion that he is an elite player was thoroughly disproved in the last series and I am a fan.

Quite possibly the most silly NBA thing you ever posted.

No on the first, at least not at the beginning. Same for Matty. Again, that's why they were competitive and it went to six. So you think Love will guard who? Irving, who?

You were so thoroughly discredited during the last series that any opinion that you promote should immediately be viewed with skepticism. It's not just that you were wrong, you were way off.

It's not that important to be wrong on a message board but stop with silly pronouncement like denunciations all time. Too much "and that's the bottom line cause farve fan said so" spiel.

This is why I don't mind you. Posts like these are gold. To recap, I said GS would win in 5 and it wouldn't be a close series. GS won in 7, and it was a close series. Being off by two games and underestimating the Thunder means any future NBA opinion I share should be discredited. You're awesome.


But yeah, you can cut this shit out. You, I, and most people here share opinions in a declarative fashion. Of course we think our opinions are right. Otherwise, they wouldn't be our opinions. That's how it works.

I've digressed too much. Isaiah Thomas, Greg Anthony, Kenny Smith have all marveled at the skill set of Kyrie Irving yet in your world it's silly to think that he has the most complete skill set of any point guard in the league. Mind you that you couldn't provide reasons as to why he doesn't. At the very least it's still not silly to think that.

Steph Curry is arguably the best offensive player in the history of the NBA. Kyrie is a very talented offensive PG who might be the 2nd best offensive PG in the league, but there are no stats, metrics, eye test, whatever that suggests he's even on the same planet as Steph when it comes to scoring prowess.

No he is not. He has had a helluva 2 year run and the only thing he does better is shoot. He doesn't have the handle of Irving nor the pull up game nor can he finish like Irving. As Jeff Van Gundy has correctly stated, Irving is as offensively gifted as any point in the league. Also stated that he doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone.

I've said it before...if Irving and Love are on the court a ton, the Cavs defense will struggle. They kept pace in the Finals last year by keeping a great defensive team on the floor (say what you will about Delly but he abused Curry on D at times) plus Shumpert played out of his mind offensively to compliment his D. J.R. Smith also played well...they will now try and match up offensively with the Warriors. It could go sideways quickly.

Jeff Van Gundy is wrong. Again, every possible statistic that you can come up with will back me up on this. Steph has just as good of ball handling skills as Kyrie, and is a much better mid range shooter as well. A glance at their shooting spray charts will back this up. Irving might be a better finisher, but Steph is pretty awesome at that too, and he's so much better at shooting 3 pointers that it makes comparing them as scorers just silly. When Irving starts averaging 30 ppg with some of the most efficient true shooting percentages ever recorded, then you can compare them.

I actually am very comfortable comparing them right now. Be careful with the Stat game. Russell Westbrook demonstrated that he was a better player last series. Didn't need stats to see that. Last finals Irving outplayed Curry in the one game he played. It was on one leg too. And he guarded Curry. I remember Curry ducking that game too.

Kyrie Irving was also regarded as the better player when both played on that International team too. Remember it's silly to suggest that his skill set is better though.

Pretty much none of this is true.

Edit: the last sentence is true. The rest is crap.

This is such a dumb argument. Kyrie Irving is not as good of an offensive player as Steph Curry. You wonder why people make declarative statements, and it's because you posit ridiculous opinions like this.

Steph Curry: 30.1 PPG. 31.5 PER. .669 TS%. 13.8 OWS

Kyrie: 19.6 PPG, 19.9 PER, .540 TS%, 3.2 OWS


The eye test is important, and stats don't tell you the whole story. We agree on this. But you must be blind if your eye test tells you Irving is a better offensive player than Steph Curry. As I said, Irving isn't close to him.

it is pretty obvious that Irving's skills are equal if not better than Curry's. And it's on a hobbled leg no less. You can decide for yourself.

To bring up stats when it's not warranted is the ridiculous part.

Didn't you also say that OKC was going to beat GS?

You are talking about them like they are 19 year old prospects. Both are veteran all stars. If Kyrie Irving's skill set produces the stats I laid out, then it's not close to Steph's skill set. No matter how you want to spin this, you are wrong.

Just hilarious how quick you were to shoot down all the stats that show just how fucking dumb your opinion on this is.