Making him earn it. That's the old school way.

Joel Embiid is decidedly better than Karl Anthony Towns

Making him earn it. That's the old school way.

Embiid is better when he is on the floor. KAT is good offensively but not great. And he is brutal defensively. Especially tonight against Embiid

KAT is soft and lacks TWTW. If he had half of Noah's heart he would be the best player in the league. You can't coach that.

“3rd Option” Jimmy Butler just dominating

30 shots for 30 points.

50% shooting isn't good? Hot take.

You are coming out like a fucking idiot. I'd be able to find tens of Carmelo games like that, except with a worse shooting percentage and less points. His TS% was good last night. Deal with it.

One day you'll wake up and realize how foolish your NBA thoughts have been your entire life. You are inconsistent at best, and clueless at worst.

You sound stupid as shit and probably need to stick to baseball. You don't know shit about basketball. He played a good game. It wasn't great. I knew more about basketball as a fucking 8 year old than you know as a full fledged adult.

Of the people that attempt to talk basketball you're are by the worst.

You do realize that Carmelo Anthony is a damn Hall of Famer don't you? Jimmy Butler isn't and I'd be willing to bet whatever price you set to venture that he won't be.

In fact I got money that says he won't be an All Star this year. You want to take that bet?

If Carmelo Anthony is slowing down at 33 or 34 years old that's what tend to happen with guys at that age. If you knew anything about sports you'd know that.

Your ramblings give us shit such as MCW, Lance, Tyrus Thomas is Bobby Portis.

You don't get a response because most just realize that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Pittmike and guys like Jorr seem like savants next to your know nothing ads. They don't even discuss basketball either.

To illustrate just how stupid You are about the game Carmelo Anthony's # 's in a down year and Butler's aren't really much different. Mind you he is the 3rd option on a team with the biggest chucker in the game. As I said before you need to stick to Baseball.

No one called it a great game. FF pointed out he was dominating the 4th quarter. This was a fact. 14 points including back to back clutch threes. He also forced a couple of turnovers and had his usual rebounds and assists. All around player.



Don't let your seething anger prevent you from typing all of the words of the sentence into the post.



I realize that Carmelo Anthony and Jimmy Butler could have the same exact statistics in a game and you'd think Carmelo played amazingly and Jimmy Butler is a "third option." You'd think Jimmy Butler stole shots from teammates. You'd think he played "isoball." Even if he had more assists and less of a usage percentage than Carmelo. You are blind to actual performance. You see names...names you were either told were good or players you are a fan of, and then they can do no wrong and other players can do no right.



I would make no bets regarding the ASG this year as the new format leaves too many questions. The captains might end up picking a large amount of teammates. If it were based on merit, I would take the bet in an instant. Jimmy Butler has been an All-Star for three consecutive seasons and he isn't slowing down.



I was not discussing this year Carmelo or any specific year Carmelo. I excluded the last 5 years of his career, and pulled up games where he attempted 30 FGA or more. He has had many worse games when taking 30+ shots, and he has taken 30 shots about 50 times in his career it looks like. Not only that, and I haven't done the math yet, but the more shots he takes in a game, the worse his shooting percentage gets. If I were to take all of his 25+ FGA or 30+ FGA games, he'd be a 40% shooter. Maybe in the 30's. Go look yourself.



MCW needs good coaching. Lance Stephenson plays 22 minutes a game for a 16-11 team and is their spark plug off the bench. I said he could be a good contributor on a playoff team and he is. No one ever called him a star. This is in your head. Tyrus Thomas and Bobby Portis have eerily similar stats through this point of their respective careers. Portis his a few more threes. Tyrus was better defensively. Both scored the same amount of points. (Technically, Tyrus scores 0.1 more PPG and in less minutes)



Who does not respond to me? I mean honestly, there are people on this board that go out specifically to watch NBA basketball with me. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?



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Butler over Carmelo:

• 2 more PPG
• Much better FG%
• Better 3P and FT %s
• About 3x as many assists
• Way more steals (9th in the league)
• Less fouls
• 12th in the league in Real Plus-Minus
• 20.01 PER versus 14.67 PER (there are 113 players between the two)
• 4.6 Estimated Wins Added versus Carmelo's 1.3

Butler also has one of the best turnover to minutes played ratios in the league, for anyone that plays 30+ minutes a game.

In what world are they having similar seasons?

You want to keep bringing up Carmelo in his 15th season and yet completely ignore than Butler is only in his 7th season (after essentially being redshirted in his first year) when discussing Hall of Fame credentials. Jimmy Butler has Hall of Fame potential.

This his a Hall of Fame career:

938 G, 19.6 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 4.4 APG, 43.5% FG, 74.6% FT, 47 eFG%, 22.1 PER, 97.3 WS

This is Jimmy Butler so far:

425 G, 15.8 PPG (21.5 last 4 years) , 4.9 RPG (5.8 last 4 years), 3.2 APG (4.6 last 4 years), 44.8% FG (45.7 last 4 years), 82.9% (84.6 last 4 years) FT, 48.6% eFG (49.3 last years), 19.4 PER, 52.3 WS

If Butler can keep his last 4 year pace for the next 4 years (Age 29-32 seasons) and not have his career cut short by injury, he would be a Hall of Famer.

After 2 years, you thought he wouldn't keep up his pace, and he has done it for 2 more. You said he wouldn't be an All-Star and he made it the last 3 years. You said he couldn't help the Wolves and they are the 4th seed in an even more stacked West.

I'm still waiting for you to introduce a valid point in order to start a discussion. I'm bringing information and you're bringing 'no lol he sux'

Antetokounmpo is becoming a top player in the league. Kawhi is a top 5 player. Yes, it isn't unreasonable that they could one-up Jimmy Butler.

On December 30, 2006 Luol Deng outplayed Lebron James...going a very efficient 15 of 19 and helping cause Lebron to turn the ball over 5 times in a Bulls win.

Luol Deng is not better than Lebron James. Over their entire head to head career, LeBron James easily gets the best of that battle.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =antetgi01

As Jimmy Butler has gotten the best of Giannis Antetokounmpo.