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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FavreFan wrote: Cavs are in full blown panic mode. Flipping half their roster out of desperation. This is quality schadenfreude. they're trying to get more scoring...Rodney Hood, I like him too. Wade and Rose are useless, so this may end up working enough to get them through to one more finals. Hmmm. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
City of Fools wrote: FavreFan wrote: Cavs are in full blown panic mode. Flipping half their roster out of desperation. This is quality schadenfreude. they're trying to get more scoring...Rodney Hood, I like him too. Wade and Rose are useless, so this may end up working enough to get them through to one more finals. Hmmm. I like Hood too but nah, they are done this year. No chance of a Finals return. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Has there ever been a team that has turned over this much on one day |
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| Author: | FrankDrebin [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
City of Fools wrote: FavreFan wrote: Cavs are in full blown panic mode. Flipping half their roster out of desperation. This is quality schadenfreude. they're trying to get more scoring...Rodney Hood, I like him too. Wade and Rose are useless, so this may end up working enough to get them through to one more finals. Hmmm. Bad locker room chemistry, team that was getting old and slow; why not turn it over and see what happens. When Love comes back, it could be enough to get them through the East but they will be killed in the Finals. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: Isaiah Thomas will not help with defense. In fact he makes their defense worse. Their most glaring weakness is defense. It is also going to be difficult for Thomas to play with James on offense. First part is true, I doubt the second part is. On paper it's a near perfect fit. Nah. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
I think the main problem will be getting all the pieces to actually fire together before the ECF. This is a short window to have so many new players. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FrankDrebin wrote: City of Fools wrote: FavreFan wrote: Cavs are in full blown panic mode. Flipping half their roster out of desperation. This is quality schadenfreude. they're trying to get more scoring...Rodney Hood, I like him too. Wade and Rose are useless, so this may end up working enough to get them through to one more finals. Hmmm. Bad locker room chemistry, team that was getting old and slow; why not turn it over and see what happens. When Love comes back, it could be enough to get them through the East but they will be killed in the Finals. This is a perfectly reasonable take |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FavreFan wrote: I like Hood too I thought you were Jewish? |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
I can't get over Utah trading Hood for a rack of basketballs. Does not compute. That's the key deal to me. With Nance, they'll be better defensively. |
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| Author: | ZephMarshack [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
City of Fools wrote: I can't get over Utah trading Hood for a rack of basketballs. Does not compute. That's the key deal to me. With Nance, they'll be better defensively. Yeah for as much grief as the Cavs are getting for the Thomas deal, I think the Jazz were the single biggest loser across all of these trades. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
ZephMarshack wrote: City of Fools wrote: I can't get over Utah trading Hood for a rack of basketballs. Does not compute. That's the key deal to me. With Nance, they'll be better defensively. Yeah for as much grief as the Cavs are getting for the Thomas deal, I think the Jazz were the single biggest loser across all of these trades. i wish they would have sent Rubio to the Cavs 
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| Author: | America [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Where does this trade rank in the worst in history? |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
America wrote: Where does this trade rank in the worst in history?  all together, it's not a loser for the Cavs.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
City of Fools wrote: America wrote: Where does this trade rank in the worst in history? all together, it's not a loser for the Cavs.He’s talking about the Kyrie trade. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:53 pm ] |
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| Author: | America [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
The only recent one I can think of is Tatis Jr for Shields. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FavreFan wrote: City of Fools wrote: America wrote: Where does this trade rank in the worst in history? all together, it's not a loser for the Cavs.He’s talking about the Kyrie trade. not sure which reporter/analyst said it, but yesterday they were claiming Lebron didn't necessarily want Kyrie traded and said if they didn't he felt they could work out their issues |
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| Author: | America [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
| of course he says that now. This guy has twice now torpedoed his legacy by being a drama hungry bitch. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
FavreFan wrote: Stealing
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
These deals today make the team better. I thought they were dead in the water, but at least the team will have some life now. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
America wrote: :lol: of course he says that now. This guy has twice now torpedoed his legacy by being a drama hungry bitch. he (think it was Seiku Smith) was saying that conversation occurred at the time of the trade, not like yesterday.... |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: City of Fools wrote: America wrote: Where does this trade rank in the worst in history? all together, it's not a loser for the Cavs.He’s talking about the Kyrie trade. not sure which reporter/analyst said it, but yesterday they were claiming Lebron didn't necessarily want Kyrie traded and said if they didn't he felt they could work out their issues Yeah that has been making the rounds for about a month. I think Lebron leaked it for the purpose of trying to cover his own ass. Didn't hear much about his displeasure with the trade when it was made. Unless Brian Windhorst reported about it at the time I'm not buying it. He is the only one in the media that I consider to be a true Lebron insider. |
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| Author: | ZephMarshack [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
I think Lebron obviously has to bear some of the responsibility for the Cavs' situation, but I also absolutely believe the stories about Dan Gilbert being a busybody owner with a Krause or Gar-like chip on his should when it comes to deserving credit for personnel moves. So it's entirely plausible to me that Lebron would have preferred either keeping Kyrie or pursuing Paul George instead. And one thing worth mentioning when it comes to bashing the Kyrie trade for the Cavs is that the Brooklyn pick was far and away the most valuable asset when the trade was made. IT being damaged goods was a calculated risk that the Cavs knew about and had a chance to walk away from. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
long time guy wrote: Didn't hear much about his displeasure with the trade when it was made. you think if he was displeased with it he would have said something publicly ? |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Lebron going GoT red wedding today. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
ZephMarshack wrote: I think Lebron obviously has to bear some of the responsibility for the Cavs' situation, but I also absolutely believe the stories about Dan Gilbert being a busybody owner with a Krause or Gar-like chip on his should when it comes to deserving credit for personnel moves. So it's entirely plausible to me that Lebron would have preferred either keeping Kyrie or pursuing Paul George instead. I agree about Gilbert. I think he is meddlesome and possibly petty too but he did spend the money for guys that Lebron wanted signed. That is the one thing that I give him credit for. I think he decided to pump the brakes when a number of the moves wanted made flopped. I also think that the prospect of Lebron leaving forced him to reevaluate how he wants the franchise to look going forward. It was a disaster last time and he is hoping to prevent it again if possible. When Lebron Signed they were in a much better position than they are in now. No. 1 overall 2 time All Star and a developing Dion Waiters. They also allegedly had Hayward ready to sign as a free agent. They were building. Can't knock the last 3 years but the moves Lebron had them make will render them useless going forward. He held them hostage each and every year and now they are about to pay for it. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Bagels wrote: long time guy wrote: Didn't hear much about his displeasure with the trade when it was made. you think if he was displeased with it he would have said something publicly ? |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Bagels wrote: long time guy wrote: Didn't hear much about his displeasure with the trade when it was made. you think if he was displeased with it he would have said something publicly ? No but he could have leaked it as he is obviously doing now. He hasn't said anything publicly in this case either but it is funny how it sort of got out. You know Gilbert or Altman aren't the ones leaking it. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
JR Smith and Tristan Kardashian are hurting them |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyrie Trade Results Meter |
Nas wrote: JR Smith and Tristan Kardashian are hurting them Lebron will trade them next, then. |
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