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Author:  312player [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:01 pm ]
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jbill if you approve of my avatar..will you tell me how to resize it?

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:03 pm ]
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312player wrote:
jbill if you approve of my avatar..will you tell me how to resize it?


Go to Microsoft Paint. Look for the 'Resize' tab under all your headers (File, view, etc.) Adjust down to 130 by 130 and there you go. Oh, make sure your adjusting pixel size.

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:03 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
What about that dustup with Darkside. He clearly started that shit, but everybody turned a blind eye to it.

:?
A couple things, I certainly never straight up used hateful ass shit with you. Ever. Never once.
Secondly, are you really sore still over that? I mean, we got our words out. Ain't that enough?
Third, you're getting sleepy. Very, very sleepy.

Author:  312player [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:05 pm ]
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thank u sir will try now

Author:  beni hanna [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:05 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
beni hanna wrote:
You know more about her than me. The worthiness of an avatar? Hmmm


I know I must be some sort of deviant even though she was the main lead in a Peter Jackson flick.

Yeah, pretty much any chick under 18 falls under unworthy for avatar status.

Didn't realize HOVA rules apply to an avatar. What other tips for worthy avatars am I missing? Personally, an avatar is totally useless...unless you happen to be part of the CSFMB March Madness Tournament. Than it is huge. The Tall Midget made huge inroads with voters by changing his. Not sure he could have gotten by HOVA without it.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:06 pm ]
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312player wrote:
jbill if you approve of my avatar..will you tell me how to resize it?


:lol: :lol:

Author:  spmack [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:07 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
spmack wrote:
About you and Bagels? I agree with him 100%. You like the weirdest people on this board (IMU is ok), and as a result, you never have anything bad to say about them, almost as if you will get kicked out of the "Crazies Club" or something if you go against them.

Okay. So what am I supposed to do then? Huh? It's on you. Since you have an adverse reaction to everything I post here, what is the right thing to do? The floor is yours.

For starters, I would have denounced any friendship to Panther Pisla/Qbo after he clearly was the one who messed up the usually normal (for this board anyway) CSFMB March Madness.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:07 pm ]
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beni hanna wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
beni hanna wrote:
You know more about her than me. The worthiness of an avatar? Hmmm


I know I must be some sort of deviant even though she was the main lead in a Peter Jackson flick.

Yeah, pretty much any chick under 18 falls under unworthy for avatar status.

Didn't realize HOVA rules apply to an avatar. What other tips for worthy avatars am I missing? Personally, an avatar is totally useless...unless you happen to be part of the CSFMB March Madness Tournament. Than it is huge. The Tall Midget made huge inroads with voters by changing his. Not sure he could have gotten by HOVA without it.


Fuck the avatar police. They're worse than the IS0P.

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:07 pm ]
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JBi11s: Bringing Anger to NBA Basketball since 2011

Author:  beni hanna [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Fuck the avatar police. They're worse than the IS0P.

:lol: :lol: JORR=Winnning

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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Is everyone here insane?

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:10 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Fuck the avatar police. They're worse than the IS0P.


Hell yeah!

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:10 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Secondly, are you really sore still over that? I mean, we got our words out.

Yeah, I am. I don't think that my post, "It's KS guys" warranted such an insulting response from you. And I was damn offended about it because to that point, I'd had NOTHING to do with what was going on in that thread. Similar to how I had NOTHING to do with Bagels and JBills' issue prior to him deciding to name-drop me here. If I'm pushed, I push back. I don't know what you folks expect, but if you expect me to be all "nice guy" about shit, sorry. That ended a while ago.

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:16 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Secondly, are you really sore still over that? I mean, we got our words out.

Yeah, I am. I don't think that my post, "It's KS guys" warranted such an insulting response from you. And I was damn offended about it because to that point, I'd had NOTHING to do with what was going on in that thread. Similar to how I had NOTHING to do with Bagels and JBills' issue prior to him deciding to name-drop me here. If I'm pushed, I push back. I don't know what you folks expect, but if you expect me to be all "nice guy" about shit, sorry. That ended a while ago.

Wow.
Then you're helpless man. Jesus H. Jumped Up Christ on a Stick. You're gonna (seriously) be all fuckin broke up over a (jokingly intended) comment about "Panther's Kitty".
If you had nothing to do with the thread......... why were you inserting yourself into it?
AND WHY SO SERIOUS? Is this not a message board, otherwise known as an online mental institution?
You know what man, you fucking called me a burrito in that thread, and I'm over it, forgotten, who fucking cares what a bunch of weirdo's say on some goddamn message board. I ain't never used hateful shit like that with you.
Without saying anything that can be a slur, this is so goddamn FEM. Fuck man. You're all over the place, oh! I can play and joke but I can't play and joke, but I can, no I can't. Jesus. I get what spaulding is saying... "Ain't worth being wrong... just don't bother to try".

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:20 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Fuck the avatar police. They're worse than the IS0P.


:lol: The jokes are getting better with this one.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:27 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Fuck the avatar police. They're worse than the IS0P.

+1

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagnPgP74jc

Uh oh Luol. Better use that superior Defense next time.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:44 pm ]
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Btw, the clutchness of each player isn't even comparable.

In 2006 alone Carmelo hit 5 game winning jumpers.

Through the 2008-09 season he was shooting 48% on game winning jumpers. Higher than anyone. Even Kobe (Kobe is the epitome of new millennium clutch imo).

Author:  Phil McCracken [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
Btw, the clutchness of each player isn't even comparable.

In 2006 alone Carmelo hit 5 game winning jumpers.

Through the 2008-09 season he was shooting 48% on game winning jumpers. Higher than anyone. Even Kobe (Kobe is the epitome of new millennium clutch imo).

Not arguing that Deng is clutch but he doesn't have to be because D-Rose is taking over games when it matters. In Denver Carmelo had to take the shot because the only other person you might want with the ball is Billups and he is one of the least clutch players ever. That Mr. Big Shot thing is a friggin joke.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:48 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
Even Kobe (Kobe is the epitome of new millennium clutch imo).


that's been roundly debunked, JBilas

Author:  Bagels [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:49 pm ]
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here's a snippet of one article for you

Quote:
Bryant makes crunch-time defense easy for opponents by shooting just about every time he touches the ball (over a five-year period, he mustered 56 clutch shots, to go with one assist).

Fans of his raw machismo howl that such criticism misses the point, but the point is that when Bryant gets the ball in crunch time, it's a virtual certainty that he'll shoot it, and it's better than 2-1 odds that he'll miss.

In 1997, he famously air-balled two shots that could have beat the Jazz; instead, the Jazz won the series. In 1999, he whiffed on a 3-pointer at the buzzer that would have tied Game 2 against the Spurs. In Game 4 against the Kings in 2002, he missed a 2-pointer that would have tied the game (before the ball was tipped out to Robert Horry for the winning 3). In Game 7 of that same series, Bryant missed a tip that would have won the game in regulation. In Game 3 against the Timberwolves in 2003, he missed two key shots in the last seconds of overtime, and the Lakers lost.

I'll spare you the entire list, but it's long. In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many air balls as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots. He hasn't hit such a shot in a playoff game, in fact, since 2008, including key misses in the closing moments against the Jazz and Magic in 2009, and the Thunder and Suns last spring. He made one of his four shots in the fourth quarter of Game 7 of last year's Finals.

No matter how you define crunch time -- from the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime to the last 24 seconds -- and no matter how you define production -- field goal percentage, offensive efficiency, David Berri's Wins Produced, the results tell the same story: Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player.

Author:  spmack [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:53 pm ]
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I agree with Darkside.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:54 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
here's a snippet of one article for you

Quote:
Bryant makes crunch-time defense easy for opponents by shooting just about every time he touches the ball (over a five-year period, he mustered 56 clutch shots, to go with one assist).

Fans of his raw machismo howl that such criticism misses the point, but the point is that when Bryant gets the ball in crunch time, it's a virtual certainty that he'll shoot it, and it's better than 2-1 odds that he'll miss.

In 1997, he famously air-balled two shots that could have beat the Jazz; instead, the Jazz won the series. In 1999, he whiffed on a 3-pointer at the buzzer that would have tied Game 2 against the Spurs. In Game 4 against the Kings in 2002, he missed a 2-pointer that would have tied the game (before the ball was tipped out to Robert Horry for the winning 3). In Game 7 of that same series, Bryant missed a tip that would have won the game in regulation. In Game 3 against the Timberwolves in 2003, he missed two key shots in the last seconds of overtime, and the Lakers lost.

I'll spare you the entire list, but it's long. In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many air balls as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots. He hasn't hit such a shot in a playoff game, in fact, since 2008, including key misses in the closing moments against the Jazz and Magic in 2009, and the Thunder and Suns last spring. He made one of his four shots in the fourth quarter of Game 7 of last year's Finals.

No matter how you define crunch time -- from the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime to the last 24 seconds -- and no matter how you define production -- field goal percentage, offensive efficiency, David Berri's Wins Produced, the results tell the same story: Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player.


Good for you, attempting to disprove a side argument irrelevant to the main topic. Should we bring up MJeff's game winning stats while we're at it. You know, MJ, the guy considered the most clutch of any NBA player?

Yawn.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:56 pm ]
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Phil McCracken wrote:
Not arguing that Deng is clutch but he doesn't have to be because D-Rose is taking over games when it matters. In Denver Carmelo had to take the shot because the only other person you might want with the ball is Billups and he is one of the least clutch players ever. That Mr. Big Shot thing is a friggin joke.


Good points Phil. My counter would be that D Rose showed up 2 and a half years ago, and Luol has never been trusted with the ball in his hands at the end of games.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:57 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
Good for you, attempting to disprove a side argument irrelevant to the main topic. Should we bring up MJeff's game winning stats while we're at it. You know, MJ, the guy considered the most clutch of any NBA player?

Yawn.


your post referenced game winning shots

i gave you an article referencing game winning shots

try to keep up with your own argument

Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:57 pm ]
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Phil McCracken wrote:
That Mr. Big Shot thing is a friggin joke.


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Author:  Jbi11s [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:15 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Good for you, attempting to disprove a side argument irrelevant to the main topic. Should we bring up MJeff's game winning stats while we're at it. You know, MJ, the guy considered the most clutch of any NBA player?

Yawn.


your post referenced game winning shots

i gave you an article referencing game winning shots

try to keep up with your own argument


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok Smart guy. You frame the argument, and I can't have any rebuttal that satisfies you. I'm good. I dealt with your type in college. You didn't last long.

Here you go, from the sidebar in that same fucking article

Carmelo Anthony
Game winning shots
21-44
47.7%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IDC who you have on your team. Melo is getting the ball at the end of games.

Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:19 pm ]
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So you admit your post about Kobe was stupid, nice work Pantherbi11slA

Author:  spmack [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:20 pm ]
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JBills is cut from the same jib as Cubbiegirl, Whistler, and Jimmy Reardon.

Along with another person I promised not to name any more.

And KD, that is hilarious.

Author:  Bagels [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:22 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok Smart guy. You frame the argument, and I can't have any rebuttal that satisfies you. I'm good. I dealt with your type in college. You didn't last long.

Here you go, from the sidebar in that same fucking article

Carmelo Anthony
Game winning shots
21-44
47.7%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IDC who you have on your team. Melo is getting the ball at the end of games.


right and you claimed Kobe was even better, moron

glad to know you went to college, feel free to drop any other bits of information that you feel might impress? like how you watch every TNT game, even when they were on Tuesdays AND Thursdays? :lol:

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