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Powerhouse233

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:41 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Upon furthe review, he’s NOT a top 15 player. Top 16 though.

1. LeBron
2. Kawhi
3. Durant
4. Steph
5. Anthony Davis
6. Harden
7. Westbrook
8. Kyrie
9. Butler
10. Lillard
11. Cousins
12. DeRozan
13. Jokic
14. Porzingis
15. KAT
16. Draymond Green

Where is Giannis?

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:03 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

:lol:

You listed Dwight Howard, and Aaron Gordon twice! You also listed guys like Horford and Blake. I had to double check that wasn’t the long time gay account before responding.

Congrats, you’re officially beyond parody!

That 2nd Gordon listing was meant to be someone else Tatum I believe. I forgot that I'd already listed Gordon and simply removed Tatum.

Still doesn't excuse the fact that the other guys are better than Green. That includes Aaron Gordon.

You keep harping on Defense yet Jokic is one of your best NBA players.

We have just provided min. 15 from each conf that are better.

The Draymond as top 15 guy has just blown up on you.

Difficult to take you serious if you are going to continue to advance this particular argument.

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:19 pm

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

FrankDrebin wrote:

Nas wrote:

Better players on Western Conference playoff teams

1. Chris Paul - Green
2. James Harden
3. Steph Curry
4. Kevin Durant
5. Klay Thompson Green
6. Damien Lillard
7. CJ McCollum Green
8. Jusuf Nurkic
9. Anthony Davis
10. DeMarcus Cousins
11. Jrue Holiday Green
12. Jimmy Butler
13. Karl-Anthony Towns
14. Russell Westbrook
15. Paul George
16. Marshmelo Anthony Green
17. LaMarcus Aldridge
18. Kawhi Leonard
19. DeAndre Jordan Green
20. Lou Williams Green
21. Nikola Jokic Green

We're at 21 players without including the East or the rest of the West. Top 50 may have been a little generous. Clearly not a top 15 player.

I hesitate to get into this debate as I tend to agree that MANY on this board under-rate defense but there’s no way Green is better than Chris Paul.

Agreed. Criminal that I forgot him.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:21 pm

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Powerhouse233 wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Where is Giannis?

I forgot him and Paul. I’ll redo this list when sober tomorrow.

I’ll agree he’s not too 15. I think he’s right around 20th though.

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:17 am

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FavreFan wrote:

:lol:

That's Hall of Fame Dwight Howard. Better than the overrated Draymond Green. This year 16 ppg 12 boards and 2 Blocks per game. I'd take him in a heartbeat over Green.

As far as Gordon goes this time next year you'll be asserting how "at the time" he wasn't better than Draymond. Yes he is.

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:31 am

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long time guy wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

:lol:

No he’s not. Dwight’s not either.

Defense matters.

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:44 am

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FavreFan wrote:

long time guy wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

:lol:

No he’s not. Dwight’s not either.

Defense matters.

Both guys guard the Ball. Aaron Gordon is a lockdown defender type and no one needs to tell us about Howard. G.S. wins with Draymond Green. They don't win because of him..You keep sighting that one game. There have been many many more in which he doesn't give them shit.

Whenever you want me to cite them I can.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:52 am

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FavreFan wrote:

He’s the best defender in the NBA since Kawhi decided to quit playing basketball. He can guard guys from Stephen Adams to Damian Lillard. He’s a just good enough shooter to space the floor. Great passer obviously. He’s a natural leader. Everything you’d want on a contender.

He isn't the best defensive player since Kawhi. He won a DPOY award last year. Woopti doo.

5 guys that are better right now than him.
1. Paul George
2. Andre Robertson
3. Rudy Gobert
4. Avery Bradley
5. Kawhi Leonard.

That is in the door. 2 currently injured. There are others of course but these are the guys that were better off top.

You can't lose rankings based on injury.

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:10 am

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how is this 4 pages? the answer is no.

would love to see him have to be the #1 option on a team. would fail miserably.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:35 am

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Guess we now will be able to find out what Draymond Green as the best player on a team actually looks like. Steve Kerr referred to as a "harrowing experience". Real basketball fans already knew this however.

https://sports.yahoo.com/without-curry- ... 07020.html

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:38 pm

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Watching pregame show and Tim Legler Ranked him the 11th or 12th best player playing on a team involved in tonight's game. There are only 4 teams playing tonight :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:07 pm

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Bump

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:39 pm

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Dude is a cancer if not on a top squad. This is only going to get uglier.

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Bagels

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:29 pm

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It appears I never posted in this thread

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:31 pm

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It appears that I was right about Green

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:07 pm

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FF with another big swing n miss, toss this into the crapper with Leonard Floyd and Lonzo Ball.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:45 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

long time guy wrote:

If he were the best player on a team they'd struggle to win 10 games.

That’s just dumb and wrong but yes ideally he’s surrounded by better scoring players. I’ve noticed you consistently lack appreciation for playmaking non-scorers.

Draymond Green (and FF). I believe your table's ready. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:59 pm

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long time guy wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

long time guy wrote:

If he were the best player on a team they'd struggle to win 10 games.

That’s just dumb and wrong but yes ideally he’s surrounded by better scoring players. I’ve noticed you consistently lack appreciation for playmaking non-scorers.

Draymond Green (and FF). I believe your table's ready. :lol:

Agreed. Good luck with the 10 win team prediction.

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:00 pm

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They may not win 5 games

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:45 pm

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Nas wrote:

They may not win 5 games

I have a bet with ltg they'll win more than 10 and i'm a little worried

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:51 pm

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Bagels wrote:

Nas wrote:

They may not win 5 games

I have a bet with ltg they'll win more than 10 and i'm a little worried

I expect to pay off ltg on the playoffs bet by Xmas

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Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:14 pm

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Draymond has always been overrated. His d is overrated and his o is bad. Top 15? Never even close

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Nardi

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:01 pm

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This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Draemond Green top 15 yeah or nay

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:03 pm

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Nardi wrote:

This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

Odd statement. I don’t think I’ve ever used that line on ltg.

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:12 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

Odd statement. I don’t think I’ve ever used that line on ltg.

That's great. There's LTG and you and everybody else doesn't watch basketball.That doesn't change the point. You've said Markkenen will be the best player in the East. I just don't know how you can say such a thing and the accuse ANYBODY of not watching basketball. If you would just stay in your lane, I'd have no problem with your analysis. We all have our guys.

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:23 pm

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Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

Odd statement. I don’t think I’ve ever used that line on ltg.

Did I say that? Can you point me to it?

I’ve never used that line on you either.

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

Odd statement. I don’t think I’ve ever used that line on ltg.

Did I say that? Can you point me to it?

I’ve never used that line on you either.

Small correction. 2nd to Giannis
Nardi wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
pittmike is that you?

Year 3 Lauri is gonna be a treat to watch. If he doesn’t get hurt he’s gonna lay waste to the East with giannis standing as his only worthy adversary.

Otto’s a great Pippen for Lauri.

Watch out world.

You should probably sleep on that.

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FavreFan

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:32 pm

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Well, he got hurt. Your post is invalid.

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FavreFan wrote:

Well, he got hurt. Your post is invalid.

OK man. I stand by what I said about you falling in love and digging in your heels.

Markkanen needs to man up for 35 minutes. Not 10-15. He isn't laying waste to the East in year 3, 4, 5, 6....

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Nardi wrote:

This further cements my view that when Farve falls in love, it's over. He digs in his heels and says "you don't watch basketball".

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