Here is but one link. took all of about 5 seconds. Cousins ranked higher.

https://www.si.com/nba/photo/2016/09/16 ... ayers-2017.

There will be plenty of others.

Is Jimmy Butler currently a better player than Cousins?

You think it is foolish that I want to say that a player that has only played 5 full seasons in the NBA needs more time to become a Hall of Famer? How many Hall of Famers are there that only had 5 full seasons in the NBA?

Do you not see the date of that article?

Jimmy Butler is in year 7. Anthony was a Hall of Famer by year 7.

If you want to discuss your fallacious "whose the biggest winner" have at it. Sure you don't. You repeated make the argument that he is a,loser. What has Butler ever won? Which teams has he taken to great heights? I will hangup and listen for my answer.

Again an obfuscation. What's the point. It was taken before the start of the season. My argument I believe was from last season. Again you like the snapshot approach. Shit Redick was better than Towns last night. Guess that makes him better. Don't work like that. Either guys are better or they aren't.

We're breathing life into this dead ass thread.

Is Jimmy Butler currently a better player than Cousins?

In 2010, you will find every ranking putting Joe Johnson ahead of Demarcus Cousins. How does that pertain to 2017?

Jimmy Butler has been ascending for a few years now and erupted last season. And has continued that this season, especially has he has gained comfort with his new team and teammates (look at his December numbers). He is likely to have his best season yet this year. Cousins cannot match what Butler provides a team.

Yep! Debating him about them at this point is a waste of time. Whenever I see he's made the last post in this thread I assume he's taking a shot at Butler or Thibs. I'm almost always right.

Yeah, I just sort of skimmed the last couple pages. When he does shit like saying Butler didn’t play well last night it’s clear he’s just being an idiot again or trolling. Every once in awhile I break, but for the most part I’ve learned to ignore these types of thoughts of his.

Cousins is putting up some fancy numbers this year but his lack of effort defensively always kills his teams. If you want to be a real superstar you have to put work in on both ends, not just chase stats. This is one of the many reasons westbrook and Harden will never be nearly as good as Kawhi Leonard. If you just looked at stats you would come to the hilariously wrong conclusion they were better. Advanced metrics help a bit with this issue, but it’s almost impossible to accurately portray everything a player does on a court through statistics.

Butler isn't a superstar. He can't dominate games offensively. Definitely can't do it consistently and when has he ever taken a team anywhere? You can put it on Hoiberg all you want but he really isn't doing all that great since he has been reunited with Thibs. They are 4 games over and have played an easy schedule.


you also told me earlier in the year that he was a supreme difference maker defensively. Based on what? Their numbers are terrible with him or without him.

The argument is Jimmy Butler vs Demarcus Cousins and that’s the card you felt you had to play?

You make it too easy.

Also, as usual, your last statement is completely wrong. With Butler on the court they are slightly below average defensively. With him off the court they become a bottom 1 or 2 team defensively. This is based on points per 100 possessions allowed, the standard metric for team defense.

What? He is on the court during the fourth quarter and they have the worst points per 100 possession rating in the league. They have been terrible with him or without him.

Yeah, see that is factually wrong. The Timberwolves are 24th in the NBA in defensive efficiency currently. They go down to the 28-30 range with Butler on the bench and are in the 16-20 range when he's on the court.

Out of all your asinine opinions, "Jimmy Butler isn't good defensively" is just about the dumbest.

I also tend to get much right than you also. Check the numbers. I'd love to see know the scales when it comes to "asinine statements".

Lets do a tally because the recurring theme regarding "asinine thoughts" needs to be put to the test. Have no doubt that I tend to get it right more than you.

Whatever you want to do is fine by me. It's funny you think you're right more often.

Maybe we can start by predicting the 2 seed in the Western Conference. Watch out world.

No lets start with Simmons and Markannen being busts. Or the Wolves winning 50 games. Or Butler being a Hall of Famer. I think that was one of your nuggets from years ago. Those are just a few.

Not to mention that you were for Ball not too long ago. How is that working out?

Never once said Simmons was a bust. Wolves are gonna win 50 still. Never said Butler was a HoFer.

You lie like a rug. Some shameful shit. Smh