The Heat can waive him as of 2/9 (one year anniversary of his last game), and wipe his entire contract off the books due to medically not cleared to play. I except him to be waived sometime from now till the end of February and for him to sign elsewhere. LeBron is going to push big for this now due to all the injuries on the Cavs.

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Fair enough. I haven't been following it closely but I thought I read recently there was bad blood between bosh and Miami and they are purposely gonna wait until after March 1st.

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It's just crazy as hell watching Westbrook play. There's times I'm watching him and I'm certain I'm watching the best player in the history of basketball.

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Fixed

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No. Never felt like that watching Lebron

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This Celtics Cavs game is one of the best I've seen all year. Kyrie and Isaiah just going at eachother in the 3rd. Just a great game all around.

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I really want the Bucks to get the 8 seed in the east

I'm not sure what the NBA can do and they have to love it's another ABC game, but the Cavs are resting their big 3 against the Clippers tonight.

Same thing happened last week with the Spurs/Warriors right?

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Yep

Pretty sad I'm watching Fast Five on NBC over both NBA games tonight

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I totally understand resting players, especially the stars. But why all in the same game? What does that accomplish other than fucking the fans who bought tickets?

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i think that's a fair point i haven't really heard - it does seem whenever Lebron rests, so do Love and Irving. And when Curry rests so do Klay and Green and basically all the starters. Maybe they could institute something where it can only be 1 player. Or 2. idk

I think the fans assume risk when attending/watching games, the risk here being favorite/popular players not "working" during a given game. I look at it like this: the fans are buying their way into the workplace of NBA players to see them go to work for their employers (the teams), just like you might walk into the kitchen of a McDonald's, for whatever reason, to see everyone do their jobs. On any given day someone might not show up to work because he's out sick, on leave, whatever. This happens at both the McDonald's and at the NBA game.

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Kind of a big game tonight between the Bucks and the Hawks if you are a Bucks fan, have a chance to climb up into the 5 seed.

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that's about the most ridiculous analogy i've ever heard

Feel free to explain why anytime now

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fans aren't going to see players "work", just like at McDonalds they don't go to see someone work- they go to receive a product. In the case of an NBA game, if all the starters are resting that product is likely going to be pretty shitty.

They should set the rosters like how they used to. Now I think each team can dress 13 guys in the regular season, and have 2 inactives (for a total of 15).

Back in the day you dressed 12 guys, and you had some injured list slots. When you went to the injured list, you missed a minimum of 5 games. So if GS wants to rest Curry, Klay, and Green on the same night, they would only get to dress 9 guys (or even less if other guys on the team are currently injured), unless they want to send Curry, Klay, or Green to the Injured List and have them sit for 5 games. Dressing 9 guys probably wouldn't be a huge deal, but it might make some teams think a little harder towards a better solution on the resting.

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I like DB's roster idea about injured list. Specifically to the Cavs it is pretty clear they do not win when Lebron does not play. So my guess is rest them all when Lebron does so not to waste the day off another time.

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Work/product = same thing. The players when playing are first and foremost "working," and only incidentally are they putting out a "product." If no fans showed up to a game and there was no TV/radio coverage, the players would still be playing, that's why I believe they're "working."

On McDonald's you're obviously correct, but I wasn't talking about customers visiting McDonald's to buy a Big Mac. I meant let's say, again for whatever absurd hypothetical reason, McDonald's allowed people to buy tickets to see how employees work behind the scenes. That was the analogy - people are watching other people work in both cases. I'm not sure of any formal ties between the NBA's paying customer and the lineup on the courts. I'm going to assume there is none. And calling a LeBron James-less game between the Cavs and some shit team a "poor product" is extremely subjective. Again I'm sure there's a bunch of legal perspectives here of which I'm ignorant, but you're paying to see employees of the Sixers play basketball against employees of the Cavs. Now if you're marketing such games as a chance to see particular stars in action, then there's obviously something off there if such marketing entails a promise, but if it's just Cavs vs Sixers I'm not sure what right the league or whatever has to compel the Cavs to start and play LBJ. The coach can and should do whatever he wants to ensure the long-term success and health of his team and players.

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Did the great Doc Rivers blow a 18 point lead to the Kings? Very VDN like...Paul will throw his ass under the bus also

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I'm out.

No they wouldn't.

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I see what you're saying and I don't mean it that way. Obviously attendance is a big part of sustaining NBA business. I still think you're paying to see NBA players work for their employers. You being there as a fan is only incidental - the coach doesn't owe it to you to start and play LBJ for forty minutes to make sure you got your money's worth. Maybe that's bad for business but caring about that side of the business is outside the coach's scope.

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Fans aren't incidental. They are literally the only thing keeping the "business" afloat.

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No repeat in the finals

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

That's not my point though. Here's my premise: coaches shouldn't care about fan displeasure with their game to game lineups. They should only care about wins losses and the playoffs. Sometimes benching the most important players pays off in the long run. If doing that means fans are upset with the "product" they paid to see then so be it.

Now, the business side executives have a case for bitching about these lineups, I'll grant you that. But a coach shouldn't give a shit. And as for us as fans, seeing a healthy LBJ or whomever sit is just the result of a manager choosing how to leverage his staff. Yeah a game is the product from the business side of things, which is what we think we're consuming, but in the end you're just watching a bunch of guys do what their manager tells them to do, including taking a day off.

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New York's Derrick Rose has suffered a torn meniscus in his knee and will miss remainder of the season, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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I see Sacramento in his future.

His NBA career is done. He will have to play in Europe, if he still wants to lace them up. He should just sit at home and collect that Addidas money.