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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.

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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


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Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".

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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


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Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".


It's possible and that gaudy record was obtained against the same little sisters of the poor Eastern Conf that you have no trouble referencing now.

Why is it that you never cite the gaudy record attained while playing against a weaker East than exist today?

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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".


It's possible and that gaudy record was obtained against the same little sisters of the poor Eastern Conf that you have no trouble referencing now.

Why is it that you never cite the gaudy record attained while playing against a weaker East than exist today?


Why are you lying about the east again? If hoiberg went 40-0 against the east I wouldn't use the east's weakness against him. But back to the topic: please explain your lies about the east.

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veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".


It's possible and that gaudy record was obtained against the same little sisters of the poor Eastern Conf that you have no trouble referencing now.

Why is it that you never cite the gaudy record attained while playing against a weaker East than exist today?


Why are you lying about the east again? If hoiberg went 40-0 against the east I wouldn't use the east's weakness against him. But back to the topic: please explain your lies about the east.


You have repeatedly implied that the Bulls are only better because they play in the East. Thibs's impressive record was obtained playing against an Eastern Conf that was much weaker than it is now. The Bulls as an 8th seed are much better than the 8th seeds of the Thibs era. Philly was garbage as hell and Indiana wasn't that good either.

Remember when they had to drum up Indiana merely so that Miami would have a "challenger"?

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long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".


It's possible and that gaudy record was obtained against the same little sisters of the poor Eastern Conf that you have no trouble referencing now.

Why is it that you never cite the gaudy record attained while playing against a weaker East than exist today?


Why are you lying about the east again? If hoiberg went 40-0 against the east I wouldn't use the east's weakness against him. But back to the topic: please explain your lies about the east.


You have repeatedly implied that the Bulls are only better because they play in the East. Thibs's impressive record was obtained playing against an Eastern Conf that was much weaker than it is now. The Bulls as an 8th seed are much better than the 8th seeds of the Thibs era. Philly was garbage as hell and Indiana wasn't that good either.

Remember when they had to drum up Indiana merely so that Miami would have a "challenger"?


Evidence please.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".




The East has sucked for what? 15 years? ...Thibs also has much More authority now, he's GM~Coach..he's got some talent on the roster and his job to get more talent this off season.

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NBA 2010-11 Regular Season Standings
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyy ... ndings.htm

NBA 2012-13 Regular Season Standings
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyy ... ndings.htm

NBA 2011-12 Regular Season Standings
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyy ... ndings.htm

NBA 2013-14 Regular Season Standings
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyy ... ndings.htm


NBA 2014-15 Regular Season Standings
http://www.landofbasketball.com/yearbyy ... ndings.htm


In 4 out 5 seasons that Thibs coached the Bulls the 8th seed had a losing record.

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eastern conference standings 2017 - Google Search
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50 losses.

Lose at home to OKC despite the fact Westbrook Taj and Robertson don't play. All DNP-CD's.

4 of 5 starters play 35 minutes plus with Towns playing 40 and Wiggins playing 37.

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20 games under .500 for the year.

4-14 over the final 18 games.

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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".

How far does his winning percentage have to drop before this argument no longer applies?

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If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".

How far does his winning percentage have to drop before this argument no longer applies?


This is his first losing season in six years of coaching. So for me it's premature to call him overrated after years of exceeding expectations in Chicago. How quick we forget he took a team comprised of Nate Robinson, Marco Belleneli, and other scrubs I can't remember to the second round of the playoffs as a fifth seed. He should be able to figure things out in Minny. If not then maybe he's a one hit wonder.

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veganfan21 wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
312player wrote:
If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".

How far does his winning percentage have to drop before this argument no longer applies?


This is his first losing season in six years of coaching. So for me it's premature to call him overrated after years of exceeding expectations in Chicago. How quick we forget he took a team comprised of Nate Robinson, Marco Belleneli, and other scrubs I can't remember to the second round of the playoffs as a fifth seed. He should be able to figure things out in Minny. If not then maybe he's a one hit wonder.



Fred Hoiberg has yet to have a losing season in the NBA.

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long time guy wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
312player wrote:
If This can't get this team to 42 plus wins next year, I'm moving to team LTG and saying he's over rated and not a very good coach.


Matches had this one covered as well.


Yeah, real sound thought process they leads to calling a COY with a top 15 winning percentage in NBA history "overrated.".

How far does his winning percentage have to drop before this argument no longer applies?


This is his first losing season in six years of coaching. So for me it's premature to call him overrated after years of exceeding expectations in Chicago. How quick we forget he took a team comprised of Nate Robinson, Marco Belleneli, and other scrubs I can't remember to the second round of the playoffs as a fifth seed. He should be able to figure things out in Minny. If not then maybe he's a one hit wonder.



Fred Hoiberg has yet to have a losing season in the NBA.


This is the wolves thread. Maybe you can create a Hoiberg appreciation thread after you figure out why you're calling for the firing of a coach who "has yet to have a losing season in the NBA".

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20 games under this season. For all the hype and bluster surrounding his hire he bombed tremendously. 2 games better than an interim coach hired shortly before the start of last season.

They will be "better" next season barring injury but it is obvious to anyone that knows basketball that simply hiring Thibs is not the answer. Better will probably entail inching towards .500 but that's still far from championship contender.

Funny how the Wolves thread stuff creeps up also. The vast majority of Hoiberg dissing tended to always include a steady stream of Thibs lauding. Not now :lol:

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Tom Thibodeau is the second best coach in the league, and the Timberwolves will be a championship contender within the next 3 years.

This has nothing to do with Hoiberg, except for the fact that the Bulls would have been better than an 8 seed with Thibodeau.

Just because you are wrong on both topics does not mean they are connected.

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Tom Thibodeau is the second best coach in the league, and the Timberwolves will be a championship contender within the next 3 years.

This has nothing to do with Hoiberg, except for the fact that the Bulls would have been better than an 8 seed with Thibodeau.

Just because you are wrong on both topics does not mean they are connected.



"Real" Wolves fans agree with me as evidenced by the comments section of their local newspaper.

Underneath it all lies a Wolves foundation facing a 'critical summer' | Star Tribune
http://m.startribune.com/comments/419335974/


Sure he'd have had the Bull better than an 8th seed just like you had him to have the Wolves better than a 13th seed! :lol:


Interesting to note that Vegas odds makers had them winning 10 more games this season than what they actually ended up winning. Oops!

Can you provide some more MCW analysis too?. I just love the way he is ripping it up as a starter for the Bull!

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Has MCW ever played for Tom Thibodeau? No?

Comprehension or your lack of memory is the issue here, not any thoughts I have on MCW and wanting to see how he would perform on a Thibodeau team.

FACT: Point guards have their career years under Tom Thibodeau.

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Has MCW ever played for Tom Thibodeau? No?

Comprehension or your lack of memory is the issue here, not any thoughts I have on MCW and wanting to see how he would perform on a Thibodeau team.

FACT: Point guards have their career years under Tom Thibodeau.



Yeah Rubio sure did and so did Kris Dunn.

So if you're to be believed then Jason Kidd (Hall of Fame point guard) is an idiot for not being able to unlock MCW and so is Hoiberg also NBA point guard. We just have to marry MCW with Thibs and all will be well.


And some wonder why I keep this going. Jim Jones's flock wasn't more brainwashed.

For the record look at the preseason predictions for each team according to Vegas odds makers.

Hoiberg exceeded his.

Thibs didn't and missed by country mile.

Vegas releases 2016-17 NBA season over/under win totals for every team
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Uhh, Rubio did have a career year.

Michael Jordan is a Hall of Fame shooting guard. Does that make him a great GM? Why don't the Top 30 NBA players just coach the 30 teams?

Stop being fucking stupid.

jimmy Butler exceeded Vegas' predictions. Hoiberg was voted as the worst coach in the NBA.

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Uhh, Rubio did have a career year.

Michael Jordan is a Hall of Fame shooting guard. Does that make him a great GM? Why don't the Top 30 NBA players just coach the 30 teams?

Stop being fucking stupid.

jimmy Butler exceeded Vegas' predictions. Hoiberg was voted as the worst coach in the NBA.



By a bunch of hack ESPN writers. This is the group that also gave us bullshit stats too.

Jason Kidd has done a better of job of coaching his team than Thibs has of coaching his.

This was a career year for Rubio either. He had a good two months. You'd know that if you were a real Wolves fan.

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Is calling people Timberwolves fan an insult you're trying to use?

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Is calling people Timberwolves fan an insult you're trying to use?


I don't insult you do. You aren't a Wolves fan you're a Thibs apologist. That being the case explain the job he did for the Wolves this year.

Haven't quite gotten your thoughts on the matter.

When it comes down to it he bombed. No matter the spin job he flopped. Based on any metric you cite this was a terrible year. Thibs I'm referencing

All the hypothetical crap "put MCW in Thibs hands and he will be great" is immaterial.

He is a backup on just about any team in the league. If he is putting numbers then your team isn't shit (Philly). Decent backup and nothing more. Rondo doesn't seem to have any problems playing for Hoiberg.

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Underneath it all lies a Wolves foundation facing a 'critical summer' | Star Tribune
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Did you just cite an anonymous internet comment to support an argument you're making? :lol: You'll rely on random comments and dismiss ESPN panels? How do we know you didn't write the comment yourself? :lol:

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I need to cite BR commenters next time. I see what I did wrong.

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