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Lavine is a LOSER.

Dieng is a bad deal.

You'd lose the bet. Injuries happen.

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Lavine is a LOSER.

Dieng is a bad deal.

You'd lose the bet. Injuries happen.


Now this is sound analysis.

I'm sure "injuries happen"will never be used as an excuse when it doesn't involve absolving Thibodeau.

Fact remains that the franchise is now a joke. He and Jimmy Butler are the primary reasons for it.

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The franchise just made the postseason for the first time in how long?
Good players have egos. Welcome to the NBA.

If Thibs can be faulted for something, it is not realizing just how little effort Fortnite kids put into their actual jobs.

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http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2869786#p2869786

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Some rookie grades

They have Donovan Mitchell as 2nd in the ROY race too.


Bleacher Report is a joke. about a notch or two above Fansided. I will never cite such gibberish as one of my sources. Yahoo Answers has more credibility in the internet source cite game if you ask me.


viewtopic.php?p=2869837#p2869837

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Bleacher Report's basketball coverage is almost second to none. Turner has too much invested in it ($175M +) for it to lack in that department, considering that TNT is a major NBA broadcaster.

LTG just tries to find ways to invalidate majority opinions. He either tries to discredit the source or claims that the information used to formulate an opinion is unimportant or inaccurate.


One guy's opinion constitutes a majority?


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"I'll link a Yahoo Comment as a source when it suits me, and will deny a 30+ year baseball writer when it suits me."

I guess I knew this, but it was nice of you to confirm it.



List of other articles the guy has written. Maybe I should take the opinion of the guy who thinks MCW is a high level player and Portis is Tyrus Thomas over him though.

link

Tyrus Thomas was better than Bobby Portis.


Yahoo is better than Bleacher Report also.

Sports Illustrated for whom he writes, is also better.



viewtopic.php?p=2782701#p2782701

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Spot on about the Gibson and Teague moves.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/21/knick ... id-griffin

So you want to rip Bleacher Report but then link an article from a GQ writer? This is an NBA offseason review, not a Dior cologne review.

This is something else he wrote:

"Find Someone Who Loves You Like Justin Bieber and Post Malone Love Each Other"


Who cares about other articles and I assumed this was an SI piece. The points he makes are relevant. Great Thibs overpaid in both instances. Bleacher Report is about a notch above fanside. UpRoxx has more cred.

I prefer when guys get out in front anyway. Nothing worse than a Monday morning QB. Everyone is an expert in hindsight.


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Only LeBron makes more plays at SF than Butler.


Any Stat that has Rubio near the top is a ludicrous stat. Bleacher Report is also pretty weak as a source.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Probably one of the greatest "who you crapping" posts.

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The franchise just made the postseason for the first time in how long?
Good players have egos. Welcome to the NBA.

If Thibs can be faulted for something, it is not realizing just how little effort Fortnite kids put into their actual jobs.



They went from having the "best young talent in the NBA" according to the vast majority of people on this board to being happy to be an 8th seed in the playoffs. He made the worst NBA trade of the past 5 years and you think for some silly ass reason that tjis was an accomplishment?


You have repeatedly dissed the hell out of Zach Lavine but i guarantee you that he couldn't get Lavine straight up for Butler right now.

His win now approach has screwed the damn franchise to the point where even his home crowd fans have taken to booing the shit out of him and you are continuing to defend him. Maybe i should cite bleacher report on this one as well.

At some point you may have some credibility on this but this was one is so overwhelmingly skewed in my favor that it isn't even debatable at this point.

They are currently the joke of the NBA and you are currently trying to find ways to blame the owner. The only stupid move that he did in all of this was hire Thibs and allow him to run his franchise. Thats it.

Do you want to place a bet as to whether any other franchise will make a similar mistake once he gets his ass canned? This validates why the Bulls fired him also.

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http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2869786#p2869786

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Some rookie grades

They have Donovan Mitchell as 2nd in the ROY race too.


Bleacher Report is a joke. about a notch or two above Fansided. I will never cite such gibberish as one of my sources. Yahoo Answers has more credibility in the internet source cite game if you ask me.


http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2869837

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IMU wrote:
Bleacher Report's basketball coverage is almost second to none. Turner has too much invested in it ($175M +) for it to lack in that department, considering that TNT is a major NBA broadcaster.

LTG just tries to find ways to invalidate majority opinions. He either tries to discredit the source or claims that the information used to formulate an opinion is unimportant or inaccurate.


One guy's opinion constitutes a majority?


http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2782930

long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
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IMU wrote:
"I'll link a Yahoo Comment as a source when it suits me, and will deny a 30+ year baseball writer when it suits me."

I guess I knew this, but it was nice of you to confirm it.



List of other articles the guy has written. Maybe I should take the opinion of the guy who thinks MCW is a high level player and Portis is Tyrus Thomas over him though.

link

Tyrus Thomas was better than Bobby Portis.


Yahoo is better than Bleacher Report also.

Sports Illustrated for whom he writes, is also better.



http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2782701

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IMU wrote:
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Spot on about the Gibson and Teague moves.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/21/knick ... id-griffin

So you want to rip Bleacher Report but then link an article from a GQ writer? This is an NBA offseason review, not a Dior cologne review.

This is something else he wrote:

"Find Someone Who Loves You Like Justin Bieber and Post Malone Love Each Other"


Who cares about other articles and I assumed this was an SI piece. The points he makes are relevant. Great Thibs overpaid in both instances. Bleacher Report is about a notch above fanside. UpRoxx has more cred.

I prefer when guys get out in front anyway. Nothing worse than a Monday morning QB. Everyone is an expert in hindsight.


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IMU wrote:
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Only LeBron makes more plays at SF than Butler.


Any Stat that has Rubio near the top is a ludicrous stat. Bleacher Report is also pretty weak as a source.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Probably one of the greatest "who you crapping" posts.



Do you want me to start quoting some of your bullshit regarding how great Thibs and guys like Pop were at managing teams and players? Remember how you repeatedly stated that the shit that Butler pulled while playing for Hoiberg would never HAPPEN if he played for Thibs given the Amount of respect that he had for Thibs?

OOPS!

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:lol: :lol: IThere is no coming back or deflecting from that one. Truly one of the all time WYC posts. Well done, IMU.

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I Knew what i was doing when i did it. I didn't care because its not like they are the only ones blasting Thibs. He is being booed at their home games.

If bleacher report were the only ones shitting on him then he'd have a point. They aren't.

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Real Wolves fans know where to lay the blame for this debacle and it ain't with the owner.

https://www.complex.com/sports/2018/10/ ... eason-game

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One of the better ones.

https://deadspin.com/tom-thibodeau-is-d ... 1821265024

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Do you want me to start quoting some of your bullshit regarding how great Thibs and guys like Pop were at managing teams and players? Remember how you repeatedly stated that the shit that Butler pulled while playing for Hoiberg would never HAPPEN if he played for Thibs given the Amount of respect that he had for Thibs?

OOPS!


Yes please quote it if you want. Nothing you'll find will be as egregious as dismissing a source on repeated occassions and then referencing that same source, in the same thread no less.

Anyway, you should just take the L on this one man. No harm. You got got. It happens to everyone. No need to raise your blood pressure over this. Just throw some laughing emojis down and move on.

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Do you want me to start quoting some of your bullshit regarding how great Thibs and guys like Pop were at managing teams and players? Remember how you repeatedly stated that the shit that Butler pulled while playing for Hoiberg would never HAPPEN if he played for Thibs given the Amount of respect that he had for Thibs?

OOPS!


Yes please quote it if you want. Nothing you'll find will be as egregious as dismissing a source on repeated occassions and then referencing that same source, in the same thread no less.

Anyway, you should just take the L on this one man. No harm. You got got. It happens to everyone. No need to raise your blood pressure over this. Just throw some laughing emojis down and move on.


I have actually. No big deal. I knew it was probably coming anyway. I didn't know that I'd bashed Bleacher Report as much as i had though. Thought it was once or maybe twice.

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Lavine is a LOSER.
Quote:
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Lance is a good player, and I wanted MCW to play under Thibodeau.

Hoiberg having no idea how to coach does not negatively or positively impact MCW.



Lance is a good player and MCW "is a good coach away" from unlocking all of his immense potential. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The franchise just made the postseason for the first time in how long?
Good players have egos. Welcome to the NBA.

If Thibs can be faulted for something, it is not realizing just how little effort Fortnite kids put into their actual jobs.



You had one of the fortnite kids as a "definitive top 10 player" not all that long ago and now he is your scapegoat for Timberwolve debacle. Got to find someone i guess when the ultimate goal of absolving Thibs and Butler is the necessary aim

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Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul
Jimmy Butler
Karl Anthony-Towns

That is my Top 10. I'm not locked in to the order of my 4-7. But I'm comfortable with the 10 as a whole.

And to clarify, that is the DEFINITIVE LIST.

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I did. I expected progress and effort as he matured. It never came to be. It happens. I don't mind admitting I need to move him out of the Top 10 and put him somewhere around 20-25. Born talent only gets you so far as an athlete.

That's a solid ass list. Put Giannis in there now.

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It might be time to start a top 10 thread and see where everyone is at right now.

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I did. I expected progress and effort as he matured. It never came to be. It happens. I don't mind admitting I need to move him out of the Top 10 and put him somewhere around 20-25. Born talent only gets you so far as an athlete.

That's a solid ass list. Put Giannis in there now.



Also remove Butler and Chris Paul. Embiid has to be in there. Healthy Kyrie Irving goes in there over both of them.

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I did. I expected progress and effort as he matured. It never came to be. It happens. I don't mind admitting I need to move him out of the Top 10 and put him somewhere around 20-25. Born talent only gets you so far as an athlete.

That's a solid ass list. Put Giannis in there now.



Also remove Butler and Chris Paul. Embiid has to be in there. Healthy Kyrie Irving goes in there over both of them.

Kyrie is healthy and he's not a top 10 player.

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I did. I expected progress and effort as he matured. It never came to be. It happens. I don't mind admitting I need to move him out of the Top 10 and put him somewhere around 20-25. Born talent only gets you so far as an athlete.

That's a solid ass list. Put Giannis in there now.



Also remove Butler and Chris Paul. Embiid has to be in there. Healthy Kyrie Irving goes in there over both of them.

Kyrie is healthy and he's not a top 10 player.



Yes he is. Jimmy Butler surely isn't. You swap Kyrie for Jimmy Butler and that team improves instantly.

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

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Kyrie is a bitch who will go on his annual cripple tour sometime later this year. I'd take Khalid al Amin over his soft bitch flat earth ass.

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

This is just ridiculous. Steph is doing all time great shit. Has Kyrie even ever made it past the All NBA 3rd team yet?

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

This is just ridiculous. Steph is doing all time great shit. Has Kyrie even ever made it past the All NBA 3rd team yet?


That's my talking point and you know it.

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

This is just ridiculous. Steph is doing all time great shit. Has Kyrie even ever made it past the All NBA 3rd team yet?


Has Steph Curry ever been as impressive as Kyrie Irving when it actually mattered?

Has Steph Curry ever been in the MVP conversation in an NBA finals series?

Steph Curry and his scary ass mates kissed Durant's ass so that they would never have face him (and probably lose) in a series that mattered.

That will be his and their legacies.

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Kyrie is a bitch who will go on his annual cripple tour sometime later this year. I'd take Khalid al Amin over his soft bitch flat earth ass.



It was that bitch Kyrie that stepped up when it became obvious that Iso Lebron was about to get their ass swept. It was that bitch Kyrie that dominated Steph Curry and henceforth changed everyone's perception of him. It was Kyrie Irving that forced them to go out and kiss Durant's ass in order to keep winning.

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

This is just ridiculous. Steph is doing all time great shit. Has Kyrie even ever made it past the All NBA 3rd team yet?


Has Steph Curry ever been as impressive as Kyrie Irving when it actually mattered?

Has Steph Curry ever been in the MVP conversation in an NBA finals series?

Steph Curry and his scary ass mates kissed Durant's ass so that they would never have face him (and probably lose) in a series that mattered.

That will be his and their legacies.

Steph won a ring as the MVP and best player on his team. It’s pathetic you think Finals MVP, something Kyrie has never won either, is a knock on him. I just can’t take you seriously when you say Kyrie is better than Steph. I don’t even want to bother posting their resumes or current stats. All I can say is these type of denials of obvious truisms is why people get frustrated talking to you about stuff. It’s ok to say “I was wrong on that”

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Kyrie's not top 10. I don't even know what the argument could be. I think everyone would take Lillard over him and Lillard is in the 10-15 range.

I bet you still think Kyrie is better than Steph :lol:


Damien Lillard isn't better than him. I actually would take him over Steph and when i called it i was proven correct so i don't know what the argument is at this point.

Kevin Durant is the guy that makes "all the difference in the world" for that team and when it comes to big games I'm have more respect for Klay than i do Steph.

This is just ridiculous. Steph is doing all time great shit. Has Kyrie even ever made it past the All NBA 3rd team yet?


Has Steph Curry ever been as impressive as Kyrie Irving when it actually mattered?

Has Steph Curry ever been in the MVP conversation in an NBA finals series?

Steph Curry and his scary ass mates kissed Durant's ass so that they would never have face him (and probably lose) in a series that mattered.

That will be his and their legacies.

Steph won a ring as the MVP and best player on his team. It’s pathetic you think Finals MVP, something Kyrie has never won either, is a knock on him. I just can’t take you seriously when you say Kyrie is better than Steph. I don’t even want to bother posting their resumes or current stats. All I can say is these type of denials of obvious truisms is why people get frustrated talking to you about stuff. It’s ok to say “I was wrong on that”



You know what is stupid and frustrating. I will tell you what. How the argument got flipped into something that i didn't say and frankly you do it quite a bit whenever you are wrong about something.

I originally stated that if they were matched up in an NBA finals Kyrie would get the best of him. You and quite frankly a number of others thought that i was "crazy" "stupid" and frankly "wrong" as usual.

Well when they matched up he did destroy him. Rather than simply move on from it bexause you were wrong you began to change it into something that wasn't part of the original discussion i.e. "who has had the better career" "who has more regular season MVPs" "First Team All NBA showings". It also became a "short sample size discussion" as if Somehow the biggest series and games that either were ever going to play in were somehow equivalent to a preseason game in Oct.

You just couldn't seem to accept and since then you have continued to pepper me with it as you did before as if I'm completely out of line for it yet anyone with a functioning brain can see that I'm not.

In fact Jeff Van Gundy "respected basketball guy" and a number of others have thought the exact same thing.

In your desperation to always be right and seem like an authority you even took to inventing things such as "Curry was guarding Irving most of the game" in the following series when frankly he wasn't. I didn't make it much of an issue because it was pointless.

You even start making up stuff about the unimportance of "checking one another" but anyone that actually knows anything about knows that this is the first thing that you check for. Its not a matchup unless they are you know matched up.

Once they placed Klay on him (because it was obvious that world class Steph wantef nothing to do with him) I was done with it but you weren't. Had to be right so you began using terms like "dominating" when it was clear that the numbers suggested otherwise. Numbers weren't relevant anyway since Curry wasn't guarding him.

As far as others "getting frustrated" that argument is tired and frankly old. There are too many biases that exist on here anyway so actually expecting people to be candid and honest about most things is a futile and unrealistic exercise.

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