Also this made me revisit Mike Francesa ranting about ESPN's own list last year. "ANY LIST THAT HAS BILL RUSSELL 7TH SHOULD BE TOO EMBARRASSED TO BE MADE PUBLIC"
https://vid.me/zPjR
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| Author: | ZephMarshack [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:47 am ] |
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New 50 greatest list: Quote: 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Wilt Chamberlain 4. Magic Johnson 5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Bill Russell 7. Tim Duncan 8. Larry Bird 9. Shaquille O’Neal 10. Kobe Bryant 11. Hakeem Olajuwon 12. Oscar Robertson 13. Jerry West 14. Moses Malone 15. Kevin Garnett 16. Karl Malone 17. Dirk Nowitzki 18. Julius Erving 19. Stephen Curry 20. Charles Barkley 21. Chris Paul 22. Scottie Pippen 23. John Stockton 24. Kevin Durant 25. Dwyane Wade 26. Elgin Baylor 27. David Robinson 28. Steve Nash 29. Jason Kidd 30. Clyde Drexler 31. Patrick Ewing 32. Walt Frazier 33. John Havlicek 34. Allen Iverson 35. Isiah Thomas 36. Bob Cousy 37. George Mikan 38. Paul Pierce 39. Rick Barry 40. Dolph Schayes 41. Elvin Hayes 42. Gary Payton 43. George Gervin 44. Kevin McHale 45. Bob Pettit 46. Ray Allen 47. Reggie Miller 48. Dominique Wilkins 49. Dwight Howard 50. Kawhi Leonard http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cbs-s ... urry-rank/ Chris Paul's placement is the most egregious thing on first glance. Wade also never gets any respect on these lists, and I say that as someone who hates him. Same for Isiah. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:53 am ] |
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Kawhi Leonard? Is he even old enough to drive yet? |
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| Author: | ZephMarshack [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:07 am ] |
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Also this made me revisit Mike Francesa ranting about ESPN's own list last year. "ANY LIST THAT HAS BILL RUSSELL 7TH SHOULD BE TOO EMBARRASSED TO BE MADE PUBLIC" https://vid.me/zPjR
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CBS does another list. |
Dwight Howard?
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CBS does another list. |
This list is a damn joke. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:46 am ] |
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long time guy wrote: This list is a damn joke. What's the most obvious errors in your opinion? I never like these lists, they get #1 right and fuck up the rest, Oscar Robertson has to be top 10. Pippen isn't a top 30 player, I'd take Hakeem over every center in history, the second best center is Kareem. Curry, Steve Nash and Ewing aren't top 50 guys, maybe one day Curry is but not now. Dwight Howard isn't a top 50 guy either. |
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| Author: | Godfella [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:09 am ] |
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long time guy wrote: This list is a damn joke. Agreed... where's Brian Scalabrine? |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:16 am ] |
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312player wrote: long time guy wrote: This list is a damn joke. What's the most obvious errors in your opinion? I never like these lists, they get #1 right and fuck up the rest, Oscar Robertson has to be top 10. Pippen isn't a top 30 player, I'd take Hakeem over every center in history, the second best center is Kareem. Curry, Steve Nash and Ewing aren't top 50 guys, maybe one day Curry is but not now. Dwight Howard isn't a top 50 guy either. Curry isn't a top 20 all time player. Probably not top 50 yet. Isaiah Thomas is a top 20 player. Dwight Howard shouldn't be there either. Kawhi Leonard shouldn't be on the list either. I will look at some others too but those are the ones that jump out. LeBron isn't #2 all time either. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:46 am ] |
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Paul Pierce shouldn't be on the list and Pippen is too high. Pippen is close to about 50th on the list. |
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| Author: | Drake LaRrieta [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:56 am ] |
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Chris Paul is not better than Scottie Pippen. When doing these discussions it's almost best to do it by era because Wilt Chamberlin is probably not as good in comparison to the modern NBA. I would probably do two lists: The NBA from 1980 to 2000 and the NBA from 2000 to the present. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:04 am ] |
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Drake LaRrieta wrote: Chris Paul is not better than Scottie Pippen. When doing these discussions it's almost best to do it by era because Wilt Chamberlin is probably not as good in comparison to the modern NBA. I would probably do two lists: The NBA from 1980 to 2000 and the NBA from 2000 to the present. Good point. Wilt was great for the 80s. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:07 am ] |
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Drake LaRrieta wrote: Chris Paul is not better than Scottie Pippen. When doing these discussions it's almost best to do it by era because Wilt Chamberlin is probably not as good in comparison to the modern NBA. I would probably do two lists: The NBA from 1980 to 2000 and the NBA from 2000 to the present. So you're suggesting that no player prior to 1980 should even be listed? Shaquille O'Neal played in the modern era and dominated doing a lot of the same things that Wilt did. Great players can play in any era. Very Goffian and Bernstinian way of thinking. |
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| Author: | Drake LaRrieta [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:16 am ] |
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long time guy wrote: Drake LaRrieta wrote: Chris Paul is not better than Scottie Pippen. When doing these discussions it's almost best to do it by era because Wilt Chamberlin is probably not as good in comparison to the modern NBA. I would probably do two lists: The NBA from 1980 to 2000 and the NBA from 2000 to the present. So you're suggesting that no player prior to 1980 should even be listed? I would not make a greatest of all-time list. I would make two lists of those two eras. People look at Bill Russell as this great player because of the Celtics success, but to win a championship at that time was only like 1 or 2 playoff series and some of those years there was less than 10 teams in the league. Prior to 1980 there were a lot of white players. Everybody knows now that white American players aren't very good. Kyle Korver is probably in the top 10 of white American players currently in the league. There is the era before Magic, Bird and Jordan and everything since. You can't compare the eras between 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to now because of things like hand-checking, flagrant fouls and three-point shooting. The amount of movement between teams with free agency also makes comparing the eras difficult. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:18 am ] |
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clickbait bullshit |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:23 am ] |
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I'm not going to argue why Dwight Howard should be on the list. I'll only say that he averaged 22 and 14 for five straight seasons and the year he single-handedly took the Magic to the Finals was a lot of fun. He was never the same after back surgery. It killed his prime years. I'm surprised a couple of you don't think Steph Curry should be on the list. I think he belongs on it right damn now. Steve Nash is a top 50 guy as well. Jason Kidd should be ahead of him based on entire career but I'd rather have 2004-2008 Steve Nash than any Jason Kidd season. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:30 am ] |
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Ron Wolfley wrote: I'm not going to argue why Dwight Howard should be on the list. I will say that he averaged 22 and 14 for five straight seasons and the year he single-handedly took the Magic to the Finals was a lot of fun. He was never the same after back surgery. It killed his prime years. I'm surprised a couple of you don't think Steph Curry should be on the list. I think he belongs on it right damn now. Steve Nash is a top 50 guy as well. Jason Kidd should be ahead of him based on entire career but I'd rather have 2004-2008 Steve Nash than any Jason Kidd season. The more I watch Curry the more I'm convinced that he is a product of that system more than anything. 3 years ago he wasn't even considered in the top 100 players. As a basketball player he does 1 thing at an elite level. He is a terrible decision maker and defender. Against other elite guards in the playoffs (guards conspicuously not considered) he gets torched. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:34 am ] |
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Terrible list. Pippen too high. Durant too high. Curry too high. Kidd too high. Pierce too high. Drexler too high. Isiah too low. Leonard and Howard shouldn't be on the list. The entire list has too many recent players. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CBS does another list. |
Kawhi is criminally underrated on this list. Top 30 easily |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:42 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Kawhi is criminally underrated on this list. Top 30 easily Like I said above, can the dude even drive yet? He's got to play for at least seven more years before he even merits discussion.
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CBS does another list. |
a wonderful list |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:49 pm ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: Kawhi is criminally underrated on this list. Top 30 easily Like I said above, can the dude even drive yet? He's got to play for at least seven more years before he even merits discussion.Seven years from now he'll be #2 on the list |
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