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| Author: | Chus [ Tue May 16, 2017 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue May 16, 2017 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Butler is a better scorer than Wall per 100 posesssions. He is a better rebounder. He has a better assist to turnover ratio. He is a much better defender and is acknowledged as such with all defensive team honors. He had a better PER, W/48, BPM, and VORP. He has better traditional shooting percentages and a higher TS%. There is no case to be made that John Wall is better than Jimmy Butler. Even if you disregard all the statistical evidence showing Butler is better and go by the eye test, the result is the same. Butler doesn't turn the ball over constantly and take bad shots nearly as often. He doesn't fall asleep on defense. He's better at making more difficult shots and is a far superior half court player. Which player will finish higher on all NBA teams. Which person will garner more votes for MVP? I think there is your argument right there. We both know the answer to that Jimmy Butler is the answer to that too  No he isn't. John Wall had a better year and was a decidedly better player during the playoffs. Jimmy Butler is nowhere near the matchup problem Wall is. Don't know which eyetest you are using. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 17, 2017 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
I just gave you the case for why Butler is better than Wall in just about every way. You haven't even attempted to make a case for Wall. I don't blame you, since there is zero statistical case and the eye test case is even worse. Isaiah Thomas and Dennis schroder both had field days against Wall this postseason as well. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 17, 2017 12:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
FavreFan wrote: I just gave you the case for why Butler is better than Wall in just about every way. You haven't even attempted to make a case for Wall. I don't blame you, since there is zero statistical case and the eye test case is even worse. Isaiah Thomas and Dennis schroder both had field days against Wall this postseason as well. When I have time I will parse through the a few metrics and select those that favor Wall. You know he will finish higher in MVP voting. That's a slam dunk. He also will be higher on everyone's list for top player at the start of next season. You must have missed the stat where opposing players shot 23% against Wall during the playoffs. Worse percentage against any player in the playoffs. Posted just before game 7. Where are all these field days? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 17, 2017 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
| That stat isn't true. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Wed May 17, 2017 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
ltg quick to bring up JB's 4th quarters but not a damn word on Walls game 7 gag job |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 17, 2017 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
Walt Williams Neck wrote: ltg quick to bring up JB's 4th quarters but not a damn word on Walls game 7 gag job Maybe because he had the game winner during game 6 |
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| Author: | HawaiiYou [ Fri May 19, 2017 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
celts are a bunch of frauds. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat May 20, 2017 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
just turned on the game to find Spurs down by 3. Surprised by that without Kawhi. They do got a bunch of heart. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat May 20, 2017 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
It's almost like the coach makes a difference.... |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat May 20, 2017 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
IkeSouth wrote: It's almost like the coach makes a difference.... It's almost like you are quaint |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Sat May 20, 2017 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
What were the odds that GS's leading scorer at the half would not be Curry, Thompson, Durant, or Green? An then that player would be shut out in the second half? |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat May 20, 2017 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
Jaw Breaker wrote: What were the odds that GS's leading scorer at the half would not be Curry, Thompson, Durant, or Green? An then that player would be shut out in the second half? who knows. It seems obvious nobody gave a shit about anything this year besides a rematch. its like even the players know the finals last year was not 4 win series... we need to see another 4 wins before we decide which team is really better. which is why the durant trade does kinda piss me off. but on the flip side, it could prove one thing true- if lebron gets a ring this year, thats it. hands down, i don't care what you say- that mother fucker is the baddest ever. wilt, mj... bird... none of those guys will be remembered the same way. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sun May 21, 2017 5:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
 Product is shit games are shit
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Sun May 21, 2017 6:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
Damn shame the Spurs are playing without Parker and Leonard. Robbed us of what would have been a great WCF. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
IkeSouth wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: What were the odds that GS's leading scorer at the half would not be Curry, Thompson, Durant, or Green? An then that player would be shut out in the second half? who knows. It seems obvious nobody gave a shit about anything this year besides a rematch. its like even the players know the finals last year was not 4 win series... we need to see another 4 wins before we decide which team is really better. which is why the durant trade does kinda piss me off. but on the flip side, it could prove one thing true- if lebron gets a ring this year, thats it. hands down, i don't care what you say- that mother fucker is the baddest ever. wilt, mj... bird... none of those guys will be remembered the same way. Dumb thought. Prisoner of the moment. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 21, 2017 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
I sure hope the finals are fun to watch. These conference finals are boring as hell. And the fact that they will wait until June to start the finals is ridiculous. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
RFDC wrote: I sure hope the finals are fun to watch. These conference finals are boring as hell. And the fact that they will wait until June to start the finals is ridiculous. This easily the worst NBA playoffs in 30+ years. I thought 2005 was pretty awful but this is worse |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/21/cleve ... acebook_si
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
We got a game! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
Celtics shock the world y'all! |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
FavreFan wrote: Celtics shock the world y'all! For one game.
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
wow i would have never believed it. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
leashyourkids wrote: FavreFan wrote: Celtics shock the world y'all! For one game.It's been weeks since I've seen a good basketball game. I'll take it.
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
It was fun to watch, for sure. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
A little shine time for the supporting cast produced the win needed to get to a gentleman's sweep. They'll lose by 40 next game |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
Regular Reader wrote: A little shine time for the supporting cast produced the win needed to get to a gentleman's sweep. They'll lose by 40 next game If they're lucky. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
I want Marcus Smart on the Bulls. Give up Butler and the 16th pick for Smart and the 1st pick. Win/win trade |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 21, 2017 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
The fuck was Lebron doing tonight? I mean, I guess it's alright to take a game off when you're 10-0 in the playoffs, but this might have been the worst game of his playoff career. And Game 5 in 2010 was pretty fuckin bad |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 22, 2017 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Playoffs |
FavreFan wrote: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/21/cleveland-cavaliers-monstars-theme-music-game-3-nba-playoffs?xid=socialflow_facebook_si This is even funnier now that they lost |
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