Wouldn't need floor spacing?
I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
long time guy wrote: There isn't a NBA champion from this decade that would Defeat the Lakers,Celtics, or Pistons teams of the 80's. That includes the Miami team with LeBron too. That's impossible to know, like everything we've discussed in the last several posts, but the 80's have an obvious advantage in that regard. Less teams = greater concentration of talent per team. The league as a whole was not more talented than it is currently though. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Yes they would and it probably wouldn't even be a close game honestly. Remember this is the era where guys would rather team up with other guys than actually compete against them. This is the group you're rolling with? There are only 2 guys this decade that would be in the top 10 all time. 80s had 4. Yes, I'm rolling with the guys who realize 3 points are worth more than 2. I roll with guys that preferred high percentage shots as opposed to ill advised 3's. There is no way in hell that you'd see weak defenders like Harden guarding elite Centers. Undersized 4 men like Draymond guarding elite Centers? Please. Who's your top 10 guys? How you spreading the floor outside of Bird? The superior spacing of the current day squad would be too large an advantage of your 80's team to overcome Wouldn't need floor spacing because I'd have 4 players that are matchup nightmares. My squad wouldn't eschew the mid range jumpshot either. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: There isn't a NBA champion from this decade that would Defeat the Lakers,Celtics, or Pistons teams of the 80's. That includes the Miami team with LeBron too. That's impossible to know, like everything we've discussed in the last several posts, but the 80's have an obvious advantage in that regard. Less teams = greater concentration of talent per team. The league as a whole was not more talented than it is currently though. At Center there is though. If I gave you the top 10 at Center from the 80''s and you gave the top 10 from this decade the gap would be as wide as the Sahara desert. When we have more time I will list the top 5 from each position during the 80's you give the top 5 from this decade and we will see how it stacks up |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarded as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarden as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. No they wouldn't. Today's PGs would be better by a country mile if we are taking all the starting PGs in the league and comparing them. Anyway, the best 12 guys from today are beating the best 12 guys from any year you name in the 80's. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarden as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. No they wouldn't. Today's PGs would be better by a country mile if we are taking all the starting PGs in the league and comparing them. Anyway, the best 12 guys from today are beating the best 12 guys from any year you name in the 80's. Which point is better than Magic? Which 2 is better than Jordan? Which Center is better than Kareem? Which 4 is better than Barkley? Each one of these 4 would have to be doubled. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarden as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. No they wouldn't. Today's PGs would be better by a country mile if we are taking all the starting PGs in the league and comparing them. Anyway, the best 12 guys from today are beating the best 12 guys from any year you name in the 80's. Which point is better than Magic? Which 2 is better than Jordan? Which Center is better than Kareem? Which 4 is better than Barkley? My team would be: Chris Paul Kawhi Leonard LeBron James Kevin Durant Anthony Davis Steph Curry James Harden Russell Westbrook Draymond Green Karl Anthony Towns Jimmy Butler Giannis And it would beat your team. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarden as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. No they wouldn't. Today's PGs would be better by a country mile if we are taking all the starting PGs in the league and comparing them. Anyway, the best 12 guys from today are beating the best 12 guys from any year you name in the 80's. Which point is better than Magic? Which 2 is better than Jordan? Which Center is better than Kareem? Which 4 is better than Barkley? My team would be: Chris Paul Kawhi Leonard LeBron James Kevin Durant Anthony Davis Steph Curry James Harden Russell Westbrook Draymond Green Karl Anthony Towns Jimmy Butler Giannis And it would beat your team. You didnt answer his questions. He is right, at every position the 80s is better with the exception of 3 |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wouldn't need floor spacing? I wish we could see this hypothetical matchup The guy widely regarden as the best in history wasn't really a floor spacer and it worked out for him. Same for the best point too. If Zeke played today he'd be the best point too. When you look at it the 80's would be better at every position except the 3. No they wouldn't. Today's PGs would be better by a country mile if we are taking all the starting PGs in the league and comparing them. Anyway, the best 12 guys from today are beating the best 12 guys from any year you name in the 80's. Which point is better than Magic? Which 2 is better than Jordan? Which Center is better than Kareem? Which 4 is better than Barkley? My team would be: Chris Paul Kawhi Leonard LeBron James Kevin Durant Anthony Davis Steph Curry James Harden Russell Westbrook Draymond Green Karl Anthony Towns Jimmy Butler Giannis And it would beat your team. Any team with Butler on it doesn't stand a chance. Jordan Magic Isaiah Barkley Bird Kareem Akeem Malone Drexler Moses Nique Dr. J They'd kill your team |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
What year are you going with? I'm taking all my guys from this one individual season. And you have one three point shooter on that entire team. My team would roll. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:11 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: What year are you going with? I'm taking all my guys from this one individual season. And you have one three point shooter on that entire team. My team would roll. I can go with 86. Each one of them was playing at a high level in 86 including Kareem's old ass. They'd beat them on IQ alone. Those three point shots would be their undoing and who the hell is Curry going to check? Zeke would murder him plus you have no post defender. Curry is the only elite shooter and his defense alone would keep him off the floor. He'd be a specialist only. 80''s coaches would go right at him. Especially Daly. You only have one pure point too and you would not get any scoring out of the post. You'd have an advantage at the 3. Everywhere else you're in trouble. Paul wouldn't be able to check Magic OR Jordan. Since it's 86 i'd sub for Moses Malone. I'd keep everyone else. Malone was slowing down. Both Malones. McHale for Karl Malone. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:25 pm ] |
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Steph would be a liabaility defensively but Magic would be too. Who's Magic guarding? Anyone on my team is lighting him up. Chris Paul shot 41% from 3 this year. In what world is that not elite shooting ability? |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: Steph would be a liabaility defensively but Magic would be too. Who's Magic guarding? Anyone on my team is lighting him up. Chris Paul shot 41% from 3 this year. In what world is that not elite shooting ability? Magic is a better defender than Curry and Harden stinks defensively too. You'd get punished on the block. Absolutely punished. I like your team but there is no way in hell you'd get away with playing small ball against that group. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Steph would be a liabaility defensively but Magic would be too. Who's Magic guarding? Anyone on my team is lighting him up. Chris Paul shot 41% from 3 this year. In what world is that not elite shooting ability? Magic is a better defender than Curry and Harden stinks defensively too. You'd get punished on the block. Absolutely punished. I like your team but there is no way in hell you'd get away with playing small ball against that group. I have Green and AD for post defense and I'm fine with that. Post defense would be an issue but my far superior three point shooting would make up for it. And Magic wasn't better than Steph at defense. Magic was an abomination defensively. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Modern NBA coaches/players |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Steph would be a liabaility defensively but Magic would be too. Who's Magic guarding? Anyone on my team is lighting him up. Chris Paul shot 41% from 3 this year. In what world is that not elite shooting ability? Magic is a better defender than Curry and Harden stinks defensively too. You'd get punished on the block. Absolutely punished. I like your team but there is no way in hell you'd get away with playing small ball against that group. I have Green and AD for post defense and I'm fine with that. Post defense would be an issue but my far superior three point shooting would make up for it. And Magic wasn't better than Steph at defense. Magic was an abomination defensively. Not worse than Curry or Harden. I'd sub Nique for Doc since it's 86. I have 4 guys that dominated their position in my starting lineup. I also have the greatest player in history on my team. Greatest point too. Top 2 Center. This one would be rough. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 10, 2017 11:58 pm ] |
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Almost every guy on both teams dominates their position. Jordan didn't become the GOAT until a decade later. '86 Jordan is immensely talented but he's also not intimidating LeBron and Kawhi |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Thu May 11, 2017 6:02 am ] |
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| Author: | Matches Malone [ Thu May 11, 2017 7:57 am ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Almost every guy on both teams dominates their position. Jordan didn't become the GOAT until a decade later. '86 Jordan is immensely talented but he's also not intimidating LeBron and Kawhi If you're going by todays rules, 86 Jordan would cause who ever attempts to guard him to foul out by the 3rd quarter. |
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