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The Cleveland Cavaliers are reportedly eyeing Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum as potential additions to complete the trade sending Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski appeared on SportsCenter on Sunday and said as much (via Joshua Schrock of NESN):

"Now, Cleveland is going to try to inquire about a couple of the Celtics' young players, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, who they tried to get in the original trade, that is very unlikely. But Boston still has a war chest of future first-round picks of their own, and some picks they control from other teams, and Cleveland is going to try to get one more of those to finalize this deal."


Wojnarowski previously reported the Cavaliers were looking for additional compensation after Isaiah Thomas' physical raised questions about his hip. Cleveland received Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and the Brooklyn Nets' 2018 first-round pick in the initial trade for Irving.

This is not the first time Cleveland has reportedly been interested in Tatum, who was the No. 3 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

Wojnarowski previously reported the Cavaliers were "fixated on a young star" and listed Tatum as one example. Brown also has the potential to develop into a young star considering he is just 20 years old and garnered critical experience as a rookie while Boston advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2016-17.

However, Wojnarowski cautioned on his SportsCenter appearance the Celtics will "resist" the idea they need to give up more in the trade. "Boston believes that it was completely transparent with Cleveland about where Thomas was physically, his rehab," he said of Thomas' hip injury. "Cleveland's version of this is that they didn't realize how long Thomas could potentially be out this season."

That matters because this is the last year of Thomas' contract. Cleveland's long-term title window is also hanging in the balance because LeBron James has a player option for the 2018-19 season and can become a free agent after the upcoming campaign.

The Cavaliers are looking to maximize what they receive after dealing Irving—a superstar who hit the title-winning shot in Game 7 of the 2016 NBA Finals—and Brown or Tatum could give them a building block for the future even if James and Thomas eventually leave.


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Don't think Cleveland will void the trade but if they do void it Irving allegedly has told them that he isn't reporting. That would be some bullshit if it were true.

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Don't think Cleveland will void the trade but if they do void it Irving allegedly has told them that he isn't reporting. That would be some bullshit if it were true.


Cleveland has screwed themselves. If they back out no one will deal with them. If Thomas can't play this deal is a disaster.

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Don't think Cleveland will void the trade but if they do void it Irving allegedly has told them that he isn't reporting. That would be some bullshit if it were true.


Cleveland has screwed themselves. If they back out no one will deal with them. If Thomas can't play this deal is a disaster.

If Thomas is injured they should back out and screw Irving. He can hold out and see how it helps him. The Cavs will be fine with Rose at point during the regular season. LBJ has shown he can lead worse talent to the play-offs. Irving won't hold out for an entire season when it becomes clear he isn't as important as he thinks.

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Don't think Cleveland will void the trade but if they do void it Irving allegedly has told them that he isn't reporting. That would be some bullshit if it were true.


Cleveland has screwed themselves. If they back out no one will deal with them. If Thomas can't play this deal is a disaster.

If Thomas is injured they should back out and screw Irving. He can hold out and see how it helps him. The Cavs will be fine with Rose at point during the regular season. LBJ has shown he can lead worse talent to the play-offs. Irving won't hold out for an entire season when it becomes clear he isn't as important as he thinks.


If Irving doesn't report, he doesn't make his 20 million. He'll talk tough now, what's he got to lose? It's the off season. But he's not gonna sit out the season and lose that money.


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Cleveland's probably just trying to get more out of Boston and/or see if any other teams come running up with better offers during this period of time. I reckon the only way this completely falls through is if it seems like IT2 can't play at all this season.

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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 8m8 minutes ago

Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.


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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 8m8 minutes ago

Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.

Meh... Cleveland is planning for post IT/Lebron anyway.

Should trade Love this season for more assets.

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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 8m8 minutes ago

Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.

Meh... Cleveland is planning for post IT/Lebron anyway.

Should trade Love this season for more assets.


It would be funny if the Cavs owner said he had enough and stuck it up Lebron's ass by gutting the team this year.

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pittmike wrote:
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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 8m8 minutes ago

Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.

Meh... Cleveland is planning for post IT/Lebron anyway.

Should trade Love this season for more assets.


It would be funny if the Cavs owner said he had enough and stuck it up Lebron's ass by gutting the team this year.


Yep. There is a such thing as overplaying your hand and I think James reached it awhile ago. He has held that team hostage every year since he has been back. In truth it's going to be difficult for him to chase rings and get paid next year no matter where he goes. He will be able to attain one but he won't be able to attain both. If he signs with Lakers it's likely that he will never reach another NBA finals.

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Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn 8m8 minutes ago

Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.

Meh... Cleveland is planning for post IT/Lebron anyway.

Should trade Love this season for more assets.


It would be funny if the Cavs owner said he had enough and stuck it up Lebron's ass by gutting the team this year.


Yep. There is a such thing as overplaying your hand and I think James reached it awhile ago. He has held that team hostage every year since he has been back. In truth it's going to be difficult for him to chase rings and get paid next year no matter where he goes. He will be able to attain one but he won't be able to attain both. If he signs with Lakers it's likely that he will never reach another NBA finals.


Sometimes a guy just knows it is close to done i.e. he knows he likely won't win enough to get to 6 so he wants to have fun and fuck with people. :lol:

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In truth it's going to be difficult for him to chase rings and get paid next year no matter where he goes. He will be able to attain one but he won't be able to attain both. If he signs with Lakers it's likely that he will never reach another NBA finals.

He's going to the Knicks with CP3 and Melo and they'll win the title and bring glory back to the NBA's most important franchise the first year they are all together.


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Again it's time to start bumping some of the better threads.

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We will see but I'm confident about this one. This is a no doubter as long as both teams are healthy.

A no doubter? Come back to reality. GS just destroyed a Cleveland team that destroyed the Celtics. Swapping out Isaiah and Crowder for Kyrie is one small step in closing that talent gap. The gap is still massive though



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Celtics taking advantage of a horrible EC by leveraging their young talent. Brown and Smart are developing nicely and along with Horford and Tatum are really carrying the load. Rozier playing a really nice PG as well.

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Celtics taking advantage of a horrible EC by leveraging their young talent. Brown and Smart are developing nicely and along with Horford and Tatum are really carrying the load. Rozier playing a really nice PG as well.


Yeah and the guy that wouldn't be shit without LeBron is in the running for league MVP.

Great LeBron also took advantage of a weaken EC over the past 7 years. Rather than point it out you always used it an affirmation of his greatness.


We are seeing now what he does when he doesn't have another All Star to ride shotgun with him also.

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The East is stronger today than it has been in at least 10 years.

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Top 5 MVP

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The East is stronger today than it has been in at least 10 years.



Yep and in about 2 years it will undoubtedly be the better conf.

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Top 5 MVP

Freak
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Durant
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Hardens the clear number one right now.

Ben Simmons would be in my top 5.

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Harden and Antetokounmpo are 1-2.

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The East is stronger today than it has been in at least 10 years.



Yep and in about 2 years it will undoubtedly be the better conf.




Next year imo, outside of GS it's pretty close right now and next year with Boston, Milwaukee and Philly all being even better..The East finally edges em out.

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Golden State, SA, and Houston will ensure the top of the West is still better for the next few years.

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Golden State, SA, and Houston will ensure the top of the West is still better for the next few years.




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Golden State, SA, and Houston will ensure the top of the West is still better for the next few years.




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If this deal goes through Cleveland is done. Wont win the East next year. Book it. Boston upgrades at the point and there was no room for Crowder on the wing with Tatum and Brown waiting in the wings. Stick a fork in the Cavs. Ainge is putting a team together that will challenge G.S for years to come.



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Here it is right here. For validation.

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after digesting the trade...Boston needs 1 thing to get them over the hump.........LeBron



Now here is your comments. For validation. See how this works Walt?

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