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Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
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Still Trusting the Process! Will get their first W tonight against Detroit. Their 3 losses were to the 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams in the East plus no Embiid last game.

Embid is NOT cleared to play in back to backs ....twit


You truly are on the cutting edge when it comes to the league aren't you?
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
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Still Trusting the Process! Will get their first W tonight against Detroit. Their 3 losses were to the 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams in the East plus no Embiid last game.

Embid is NOT cleared to play in back to backs ....twit


You truly are on the cutting edge when it comes to the league aren't you?

I sure am
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
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Still Trusting the Process! Will get their first W tonight against Detroit. Their 3 losses were to the 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams in the East plus no Embiid last game.

Embid is NOT cleared to play in back to backs ....twit

:lol:

Yeah.

Going forward, I never want to hear the caveat "If Embiid stays healthy" about the 76ers. He doesn't stay healthy. If Wade was 10 years younger the Cavs would be great but he's not so it's irrelevant.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
FavreFan wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
0-3


Still Trusting the Process! Will get their first W tonight against Detroit. Their 3 losses were to the 2nd 3rd and 4th best teams in the East plus no Embiid last game.

Embid is NOT cleared to play in back to backs ....twit

:lol:

Yeah.

Going forward, I never want to hear the caveat "If Embiid stays healthy" about the 76ers. He doesn't stay healthy. If Wade was 10 years younger the Cavs would be great but he's not so it's irrelevant.



He actually is healthy. It's Philly management that's making him sit out back to backs. By all accounts he wants to play in back to backs.
Author:  Hussra [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:31 pm ]
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Greg Oden played 51 more games in his first 3 NBA seasons than Joel Embiid played his first 3 NBA seasons.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:37 pm ]
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Simmons dominating Detroit in the 1st.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
Hussra wrote:
Greg Oden played 51 more games in his first 3 NBA seasons than Joel Embiid played his first 3 NBA seasons.


None of that matters. Oden's injuries ruined his career. Embiid's haven't.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:38 pm ]
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Ben Simmons is for real.
Author:  Bagels [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
Ben Simmons is for real.



Yea he looks great
Author:  Bagels [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:54 pm ]
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Geez they're on fire
Author:  W_Z [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:23 pm ]
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i'd feel good if it were a better team than the pistons...but gotta start somewhere.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:40 pm ]
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Like Brown as a coach but some of his substitutions are suspect. Amir Johnson gives you nothing and neither does McConnell. Why they play at all is a mystery.
Author:  Bagels [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:34 pm ]
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Yea McConnell is a poor mans Dellavedova
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:38 pm ]
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I'm predicting a Embiid/Simmons ego clash sooner rather than later. Simmons should be the clear alpha on this team and I don't think embiid will like that.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:43 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
Yea McConnell is a poor mans Dellavedova


Yeah he was cool when the team was shitty but he shouldn't be playing now that the talent has arrived.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.

Their defense has been poor but total ppg is a terrible way to gauge defensive effectiveness.
Author:  long time guy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.

Their defense has been poor but total ppg is a terrible way to gauge defensive effectiveness.



I will check opponents fg% but just with the naked eye it seems really easy to score against them. They seem to be all in with this small ball thing now. Start ZaZa but he play little after that. They are trying to use Durant as a rim protector. Don't know about that and arguably their best on Ball defender is 34 years old. It's going to be tough to for him to be a lockdown guy at that age.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.

Their defense has been poor but total ppg is a terrible way to gauge defensive effectiveness.



I will check opponents fg% but just with the naked eye it seems really easy to score against them. They seem to be all in with this small ball thing now. Start ZaZa but he play little after that. They are trying to use Durant as a rim protector. Don't know about that and arguably their best on Ball defender is 34 years old. It's going to be tough to for him to be a lockdown guy at that age.

Klay isn't 34 years old and he's much better than Iggy at on ball defense at this stage on their careers.

The Warriors are fine. There really won't be much to say about them til May. The regular season is especially meaningless for them and Kerr has already made multiple comments about them not being in shape and shit like that.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.

Their defense has been poor but total ppg is a terrible way to gauge defensive effectiveness.



I will check opponents fg% but just with the naked eye it seems really easy to score against them. They seem to be all in with this small ball thing now. Start ZaZa but he play little after that. They are trying to use Durant as a rim protector. Don't know about that and arguably their best on Ball defender is 34 years old. It's going to be tough to for him to be a lockdown guy at that age.

Klay isn't 34 years old and he's much better than Iggy at on ball defense at this stage on their careers.

The Warriors are fine. There really won't be much to say about them til May. The regular season is especially meaningless for them and Kerr has already made multiple comments about them not being in shape and shit like that.


That's why I said arguably. Iggy is the key to the whole small ball thing. His versatility as both a defender and offensive player is what makes it go. That's why resigning him was critical. If there is a slip in his play watch out world.

I never bought into the notion that they are a super team anyway. Their biggest challenge will come in the West. Hopefully the other teams won't be injured this year.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:59 am ]
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Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night. Played closer to the basket on offense. They have to get Fultz going so that Bayless can be the off the bench scoring threat he's best suited to be. I also wonder if they want Saric to be starting 4 or Simmons. Simmons has been guarding 4's but I wonder if they see Saric as the guy to do that ultimately. Saric started the 2nd half in place of Bayless and ultimately I'd like to see Covington and Bayless come off the bench.

They probably won't do it because of spacing and speed but I think the big lineup is their best lineup.
Author:  shakes [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night. Played closer to the basket on offense. They have to get Fultz going so that Bayless can be the off the bench scoring threat he's best suited to be. I also wonder if they want Saric to be starting 4 or Simmons. Simmons has been guarding 4's but I wonder if they see Saric as the guy to do that ultimately. Saric started the 2nd half in place of Bayless and ultimately I'd like to see Covington and Bayless come off the bench.

They probably won't do it because of spacing and speed but I think the big lineup is their best lineup.



Simmons is the starting 1, not 4.

Simmons can get in the lane at will so I imagine any lineup that opens up the middle is the best lineup for the Sixers. Probably Simmons, Embid and then 3 guys who can shoot with at least one of those guys also capable of slashing/cutting on the weakside to take advantage of Simmon's interior passing.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
shakes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night. Played closer to the basket on offense. They have to get Fultz going so that Bayless can be the off the bench scoring threat he's best suited to be. I also wonder if they want Saric to be starting 4 or Simmons. Simmons has been guarding 4's but I wonder if they see Saric as the guy to do that ultimately. Saric started the 2nd half in place of Bayless and ultimately I'd like to see Covington and Bayless come off the bench.

They probably won't do it because of spacing and speed but I think the big lineup is their best lineup.



Simmons is the starting 1, not 4.

Simmons can get in the lane at will so I imagine any lineup that opens up the middle is the best lineup for the Sixers. Probably Simmons, Embid and then 3 guys who can shoot with at least one of those guys also capable of slashing/cutting on the weakside to take advantage of Simmon's interior passing.


He is guarding 4's on defense.

They are starting Bayless Redick Covington Embiid and Simmons. Who's guarding 4's in that lineup if he isn't?
Author:  shakes [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
shakes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night. Played closer to the basket on offense. They have to get Fultz going so that Bayless can be the off the bench scoring threat he's best suited to be. I also wonder if they want Saric to be starting 4 or Simmons. Simmons has been guarding 4's but I wonder if they see Saric as the guy to do that ultimately. Saric started the 2nd half in place of Bayless and ultimately I'd like to see Covington and Bayless come off the bench.

They probably won't do it because of spacing and speed but I think the big lineup is their best lineup.



Simmons is the starting 1, not 4.

Simmons can get in the lane at will so I imagine any lineup that opens up the middle is the best lineup for the Sixers. Probably Simmons, Embid and then 3 guys who can shoot with at least one of those guys also capable of slashing/cutting on the weakside to take advantage of Simmon's interior passing.


He is guarding 4's on defense.

They are starting Bayless Redick Covington Embiid and Simmons. Who's guarding 4's in that lineup if he isn't?


yep, he's guarding the 4s, but playing the 1. I could see them going with an eventual lineup of.....Simmons, Redick, Covington, Embid and Saric. Fultz and Bayless in the 2nd unit. But what about Okafor? Does he take that starting 4 spot at some point? Fultz, Bayless, Saric (or Okafor) is the start of a nice bench.
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
shakes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
shakes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night. Played closer to the basket on offense. They have to get Fultz going so that Bayless can be the off the bench scoring threat he's best suited to be. I also wonder if they want Saric to be starting 4 or Simmons. Simmons has been guarding 4's but I wonder if they see Saric as the guy to do that ultimately. Saric started the 2nd half in place of Bayless and ultimately I'd like to see Covington and Bayless come off the bench.

They probably won't do it because of spacing and speed but I think the big lineup is their best lineup.



Simmons is the starting 1, not 4.

Simmons can get in the lane at will so I imagine any lineup that opens up the middle is the best lineup for the Sixers. Probably Simmons, Embid and then 3 guys who can shoot with at least one of those guys also capable of slashing/cutting on the weakside to take advantage of Simmon's interior passing.


He is guarding 4's on defense.

They are starting Bayless Redick Covington Embiid and Simmons. Who's guarding 4's in that lineup if he isn't?


yep, he's guarding the 4s, but playing the 1. I could see them going with an eventual lineup of.....Simmons, Redick, Covington, Embid and Saric. Fultz and Bayless in the 2nd unit. But what about Okafor? Does he take that starting 4 spot at some point? Fultz, Bayless, Saric (or Okafor) is the start of a nice bench.


They tried Embiid Okafor at the 4/5 last season for a few games but it didn't really work too well. Okafor has dropped about 20 -25 pounds and he is much more active. I'd like to see them try it again but I don't think Embiid likes that much. I think he wants the option of playing either inside or outside.

What I remembered from that lineup was that they were killed in transition. Okafor is actually more athletic than Saric but he isn't a natural 4.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.


It won't matter.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.


It won't matter.

They outscored Dallas by 30 in the second half of that game :lol:
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.


It won't matter.

They outscored Dallas by 30 in the second half of that game :lol:



Dallas stinks.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The 76ers scare me
long time guy wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
A little early bit G.S.'s defense is non existent. 62 in the first half against a weak Dallas team. Think teams are avg about 120 per game so far this season.


It won't matter.

They outscored Dallas by 30 in the second half of that game :lol:



Dallas stinks.

Of course. This is why it was funny that you seemed concerned over a first half score.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:28 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Embiid thoroughly dominated Drummond last night.

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