Helluva game between OKC and Philly . going to triple OT

Helluva game between OKC and Philly . going to triple OT

Is now a good time to point out that Embiid, loved by LTG, only plays 30 minutes a game. Yet Jokic is penalized playing 29 minutes.

I agree he should be playing a few more min per game, but he's been banged up this year and just became a starter last December.

You do realize though that playing lower minutes affects other per game stats, right? So no, Cousins is not better when it comes to assists. Jokic is at 7.7 per 100 possessions and Cousins is at 6.9. Jokic's assist % is 24.6% this year, 24% for his career. Cousins is at 23.6% this year and 17.8% for his career.
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I agree scoring is most important, and Jokic is a more efficient scorer than Cousins. Cousins TS% is .577, Jokic is .609. Jokic could easily score 20+ ppg if he wanted to. I like that he makes his teammates better(Cousins does not). That's how you become the centerpiece of an explosive offense, which is exactly what Jokic is.

Again the statistical analysis (advanced) needs to be tabled sometimes. Jokic isn't making guys all that better either. Denver hasn't really fallen of since he has been injured. They have a little talent and if he is as good as you keep suggesting he will be on the All Star team

Cousins is regarded as the best center in the league and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone (other than yourself) who thinks he is better than Cousins.

Embiid is also better. I'm not ready to put Embiid in the great category either. I think he will be but he has to play a full season first.

The reason that he plays fewer minutes is because it's obvious that his coaches believe that he wouldn't be nearly as effective at 34 or 35 minutes per game.

Sorry, but I'm not just going to dismiss SEVERAL statistics that indicate he's very good just because you don't like him. The rebounding numbers I posted werent advanced either, and they indicate he's as good or slightly better at rebounding than Cousins. And you again are arguing out of both sides of your mouth, you think Jokic isn't good because he hasn't made an all star team but you say the team is talented despite having no other all stars outside of Millsap, who's hurt and played poorly when healthy. WYC?

I posted several objective metrics that suggest it as well, not just my assessment. I can’t help that you ignore additional data just because it suggests your eye test isn’t as accurate as you thought.

. Per 100 possessions isnt more relevant than per game either..

The Greek Freak's ascension has been totally absurd, I don't know if I've ever seen a player improve this much over a few years. He's a transcendent player and he'll be the best player on the planet soon.

T-Mac from Toronto to Orlando.

I don't think that was even as drastic. In T-Mac's final year in Toronto he was showing some major star potential. He was a game breaker on the defensive end, he was showing fine passing skills and elite athleticism. He just couldn't put up the big scoring numbers because he couldn't be ball dominant with another player like Carter on the floor. He was already showing great offensive talent though. The Greak Freek's transformation from an 18-19 year in 2013-14 season to now as a 22-23 year old in 2017-18 is just mind boggling and shocking.The physical transformation itself is incredible. He came into the league as a slight forward resembling Brandon Ingram and could be pushed around by other big players. Now a few years later not only has he grown from 6'9" to 6'11" but he's put on a shit ton of muscle and has sculpted his body. Now he's barreling down the lane a la LeBron. He's become a truly dominant player and he simply cannot be stopped when he's on the fastbreak or in the paint. He's also become a terrific defender, a great rebounder, an excellent facilitator and he has added an unstoppable turnaround mid range shot to his repertoire. I think he'll be the new face of the NBA in short amount of time.

I don't think that was even as drastic. In T-Mac's final year in Toronto he was showing some major star potential. He was a game breaker on the defensive end, he was showing fine passing skills and elite athleticism. He just couldn't put up the big scoring numbers because he couldn't be ball dominant with another player like Carter on the floor. He was already showing great offensive talent though. The Greak Freek's transformation from an 18-19 year in 2013-14 season to now as a 22-23 year old in 2017-18 is just mind boggling and shocking.The physical transformation itself is incredible. He came into the league as a slight forward resembling Brandon Ingram and could be pushed around by other big players. Now a few years later not only has he grown from 6'9" to 6'11" but he's put on a shit ton of muscle and has sculpted his body. Now he's barreling down the lane a la LeBron. He's become a truly dominant player and he simply cannot be stopped when he's on the fastbreak or in the paint. He's also become a terrific defender, a great rebounder, an excellent facilitator and he has added an unstoppable turnaround mid range shot to his repertoire. I think he'll be the new face of the NBA in short amount of time.

KD said Freak could be the best ever. LTG's like "nah, Irving's got GOAT locked up."

Can he be GOAT if Jimmy Butler is better?

LTG I swear this ain’t a trick question - who’s better right now between Oladipo and George? I’m not talking age and potential and future and talent here. Just who would you rather have if you need to win a game tomorrow night?