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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:04 am 
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Lost in the hype is how great Chet hast looked this year as well. I know they were drafted in different years, but both rookies this year. Can't remember the league ever having two franchise level centers in the same rookie class.


Should be a good battle for a long time. For now, Chet is on the MUCH better team, but we'll see what the Spurs end up looking like in a few years.

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they seem to be getting beat by 30 or so every night

is this like the Angels where Ohtani and Trout are other worldly stars but they don't make the playoffs?

Other worldly star? He was 4-14.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:16 am 
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Nardi wrote:
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they seem to be getting beat by 30 or so every night

is this like the Angels where Ohtani and Trout are other worldly stars but they don't make the playoffs?

Other worldly star? He was 4-14.

What a bust

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His current 18.8 pts and 8.5 boards should get him ROY

Ralph Sampson was 21 and 11 his rookie year. Had a couple good years and then broke in half.


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His current 18.8 pts and 8.5 boards should get him ROY

Ralph Sampson was 21 and 11 his rookie year. Had a couple good years and then broke in half.

I need to see somebody bully him before I concur with myself that he’s going to get bullied.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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His current 18.8 pts and 8.5 boards should get him ROY

Ralph Sampson was 21 and 11 his rookie year. Had a couple good years and then broke in half.

I need to see somebody bully him before I concur with myself that he’s going to get bullied.


This isn't the 1980s.

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Nas wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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His current 18.8 pts and 8.5 boards should get him ROY

Ralph Sampson was 21 and 11 his rookie year. Had a couple good years and then broke in half.

I need to see somebody bully him before I concur with myself that he’s going to get bullied.


This isn't the 1980s.

No, but he’s still going to have to defend a couple 300lb skilled offensive players at some point that’ll stick their ass into him.

I’m looking forward to seeing how he responds.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nardi wrote:
His current 18.8 pts and 8.5 boards should get him ROY

Ralph Sampson was 21 and 11 his rookie year. Had a couple good years and then broke in half.

I need to see somebody bully him before I concur with myself that he’s going to get bullied.


This isn't the 1980s.

No, but he’s still going to have to defend a couple 300lb skilled offensive players at some point that’ll stick their ass into him.

I’m looking forward to seeing how he responds.



Embiid will do that one time and score with ease and then he'll spend the rest of the game shooting 3s.


Can't remember the last time I saw a big man clear out for a post up more than 1-2x an entire game.

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Early on, I don't see a big difference between him and Chet. Chet's PER is actually better


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:22 pm 
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Nardi wrote:
Early on, I don't see a big difference between him and Chet. Chet's PER is actually better


Chet has a redshirt season around the game, but I agree with you.

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Nas wrote:
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Early on, I don't see a big difference between him and Chet. Chet's PER is actually better


Chet has a redshirt season around the game, but I agree with you.



yep, let's give Victor some time before we pass such judgment.


But I also agree as I stated earlier, Chet looks great. He's one of those guys who looks better in the pros than he did in college, benefitting from all the extra space. In college he would try to take guys off the dribble from the 3pt line and he would run into a wall of help defenders. I've already seen him get to the hole 1v1 with ease several times as a pro.

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Nas wrote:
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Early on, I don't see a big difference between him and Chet. Chet's PER is actually better


Chet has a redshirt season around the game, but I agree with you.



yep, let's give Victor some time before we pass such judgment.

Of course, but it's fingernails on a chalkboard to hear "other worldly" when this ain't the Frenchy League. Everybody has struggled at 19 except Lebron. Maybe he'll be the 2nd...if he doesn't get broke in half.


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DIdn't Kobe come off the bench his first season? On a mostly shite Lakers team.

Holmgren and Wembenyama close on non-shooting stats:

20 blocks for Chet, 19 for Wemby...although blocks are one of those stats where maybe guys don't even try to go up on Wemby vs thinking they can dunk over Chet. Prolly impossible stat to track, but it should really be shots blocked or altered or never taken because of the defender's presence.

8 steals for Chet to 9 for Wemby

63 TRB for Chet to 68 for Wemby

238 minutes played for Chet, 233 minutes Wemby

Wemby with more total points, 150 to 133 for Chet

But Chet shooting the lights out from 3, 15-27 (56%) to 12-41 (29%) Wemby

Chet gets into foul trouble a bit more, 28 PF to only 18 for Wemby

Chet dishing it better, or dishing to better shooters, 21 assists to 14 for Wemby


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Hussra wrote:
DIdn't Kobe come off the bench his first season? On a mostly shite Lakers team


He was behind Eddie Jones.

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shakes wrote:
But I also agree as I stated earlier, Chet looks great.

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It must be the Diet Coke.

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Wemby does things on the court no one's ever seen before. e.g., his ability to defend at the rim and still challenge or even straight up block the shot on the outlet to the 3 point line. He needs more consistency in his play and more flight miles playing against NBA talent but Wemby's potential seems greater than Chet's.

Notice San Antonio lost their shot doctor Chip to....Oklahoma City back in 2022, so he's been working with Chet since Holmgren entered the league. Could explain Chet being 56% from 3 and Wemby about half that.


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I saw the game when they went head to head in the preseason and it was apparent that Wemby had the higher ceiling. Though Chet was hardly anyone's slouch. He competed and posted solid numbers. Wemby had more wow moments and appeared to be more of a matchup nightmare though. Both will be good but likely will be injury prone throughout their careers. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see anyway they won't be.

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The 2nd best skinny 7+footer is who? Dikembe? I looked up Garnett. 6'11". Plus he filled out pretty remarkably.


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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
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But I also agree as I stated earlier, Chet looks great.

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It must be the Diet Coke.

Is Chet related to Michael Shannon?

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The 2nd best skinny 7+footer is who? Dikembe? I looked up Garnett. 6'11". Plus he filled out pretty remarkably.


does "skinny 7+ footer" not include Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell?


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Hussra wrote:
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The 2nd best skinny 7+footer is who? Dikembe? I looked up Garnett. 6'11". Plus he filled out pretty remarkably.


does "skinny 7+ footer" not include Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell?

Kareem was assumed as the #1. Wilt wasn't skinny and Russell was 6'9"


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CHEMBY1 was a total dud. They both sucked and they didn't even guard each other. Great product, NBA!

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