I see no way they won't have a worse record than the Bucks, the Bucks won again last night.

Still no way they win 20 games.

It's gonna be tough in the East. We all know about Rose and I'm pretty much Rondo's biggest fan here. I think he will make multiple All Star appearances in his career and I'd say 2013-2014 will be his first one if I was forced to pick when but it's very dependent on their next coach and then obviously his work ethic.

Bump.

Probably one of my favorite threads of all time.

Bump.

Probably one of my favorite threads of all time.

It will ultimately be viewed as a mistake that a team passed on Evan Turner for John Wall.

Here are my reasons:
1) I don't trust Wall off the court. He was on good behavior in his year at Kentucky but he did have some past problems including an alleged breaking and entering incident.
2) Evan Turner is going to get even better. He's a different type of player than Dwayne Wade but he reminds me a lot of him in terms of his career arc. Turner got significantly better throughout college. He was the 50th ranked player coming into college. He was arguably the best player in the whole country last year.
3) Wall may be a great player but I'd be concerned that he'd be a great individual talent similar to Iverson but ultimately not the kind of player that wins titles.
4) I think Wall came in with the hype of being the next great Calipari guard but I'd call his one year in college a little bit hollow. They dominated a weak conference where most of the games were played against overmatched teams. His team also had three other first round picks and yet they didn't even make the final four? That's not all on Wall but I think his talent advantage needs to be taken into consideration.

I'd also avoid Cousins for off the court reasons too.

For a sleeper pick, I'd go with Devin Ebanks. I don't know if he's a star but I think he's got a lot of talent and will fit in well in the NBA. Add Xavier Henry into the list too.

For a late second round pick role player, Luke Harangody is a decent pick. He'll be a poor man's Glen Davis, which is pretty poor but better than most drafted late.

You could've been a contender! This is bad really bad

I didn't hear you disagreeing when I said it.

I didn't hear you disagreeing when I said it.

I am sure he did, just under his old login.