The 2005 White Sox were absolutely a great team.

If they went 55-0 in 4 straight games they probably would be the greatest team of all time.

Please use "historically great" from now on.

The greatest playoff run of all time. The regular season exists.

The greatest playoff run of all time. The regular season exists.

It just seems like an odd way of talking about it, or maybe it's just different with different sports. Like in the NBA, when people would talk about who the best team of all time was, they would talk about the Warriors, Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, etc in terms of playing against eachother. I never hear it framed as "The team with the most regular season wins is the best". In fact, most fans think they aren't.

Baseball is a much different sport than basketball. Rick won't accept that, but it's true.

And you wanna get on me for meaningless statements? WYC

AJ > Posada
Konerko > Tino Martinez
Tadahito > Knoblauch
Uribe < Jeter
Crede > Brosius
Pods > Chad Curtis
Rowand < Bernie Williams
Dye = Paul O'Neill
Carl Everett > Darryl Strawberry

Buehrle > Pettite
Garcia < Wells
Garland = Cone
Contreras > Irabu
El Duque < El Duque

Pretty even matchup.

No, it would be the greatest team of all time, especially if you can explain it like that with a trade for an all time great player. You seem to be arguing that it would be a fluke, and you don't think the 2005 White Sox were a fluke right?

It just seems like an odd way of talking about it, or maybe it's just different with different sports. Like in the NBA, when people would talk about who the best team of all time was, they would talk about the Warriors, Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, etc in terms of playing against eachother. I never hear it framed as "The team with the most regular season wins is the best". In fact, most fans think they aren't.

The last thing I want is for a thread about the 19-consecutive-wins Indians to turn into another fucking referendum on the White Sox, but there are some interesting parallels between the '05 Sox and '98 Yankees in terms of the wholes being much much bigger than the sums of their respective parts. It would be a good best of seven for sure.

Well baseball post season is 1/16th of the regular season. Most other sports aren't.

I actually think the best team is the on who is best after 162. They just don't always close the deal in the tiny sample size we've chosen for playoffs.

The last thing I want is for a thread about the 19-consecutive-wins Indians to turn into another fucking referendum on the White Sox, but there are some interesting parallels between the '05 Sox and '98 Yankees in terms of the wholes being much much bigger than the sums of their respective parts. It would be a good best of seven for sure.

Agreed. Would be a good Series.

Yankees were better, imo but as anyone who follows baseball knows that doesn't always work out in a shirt series.

Although I think Peeps was a little generous on the Garland = Cone one.

This is correct.

No, this is an opinion discussion. There is no correct and incorrect.

CH has convinced everyone the 2005 White Sox could beat the 98 Yankees!

We did good work here.

Oh, that's precious coming from you. You berate Frank for having the audacity to order his steak medium.

Right. It's a fact that overcooked steak takes out the flavor. It's not a fact who the best team in MLB history is.

It honestly is weird how much it bothers you that the 05 Sox weren't the best ever.

No one argued otherwise because most people posting in this thread understand anything can happen in a short series.

It honestly is weird how much it bothers you that the 05 Sox weren't the best ever.

They were your best ever. Should be enough.

You can't play that card in this thread. All any Sox fans are doing in this thread is saying the 2005 team was one of the best teams ever. It's you and leash who are getting bothered by that very reasonable opinion.

You must have Rick on ignore.

Because it's a very reasonable opinion to leave the Sox out of the all time great list and Rick literally is ready to flip a car over at the mere suggestion.

Rick will never admit that sample size matters.

I thought bringing up different sports was irrelevant. Now they are relevent again?

You actually do have Rick on ignore don't you?

This thread:
Sox fans upset at thought: 2005 White Sox not best ever.

Being a Sox fan seems like a strange trip.

So you believe the 2005 White Sox are on par with what many believe to be the greatest baseball team of all time?

I think they are a rung or two below. The only team Id put with the 98 Yankees is the Big Red Machine.

No one argued otherwise because most people posting in this thread understand anything can happen in a short series.

It honestly is weird how much it bothers you that the 05 Sox weren't the best ever.

They were your best ever. Should be enough.