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Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  How important are wins?

I don't know if this has ever been discussed here, but I think it needs to be hashed out.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

For a team, very much so.

For a pitcher, entirely irrelevant.

This concludes tonight's review.

Thank you for stopping by; good night.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Wins for a pitcher are the ultimate result of each game he pitched.

Author:  IMU [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Don Tiny wrote:
For a team, very much so.

For a pitcher, entirely irrelevant.

This concludes tonight's review.

Thank you for stopping by; good night.

Well said.

Author:  Mr. Reason [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

As of late, wins for the Cub have been scarce. Sometimes, it's the starting pitching, in others it's been the bullpen. In any event, a loss is a loss and losses suck.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

IMU wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
For a team, very much so.

For a pitcher, entirely irrelevant.

This concludes tonight's review.

Thank you for stopping by; good night.

Well said.


And wrong.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Don Tiny wrote:
For a pitcher, entirely irrelevant.
And this is entirely wrong.

As with most stats, wins for a pitcher are not the end all be all, but they do tell you something. Only imbeciles would completely ignore W-L for pitchers, especially starters.

You need to look no further than Chicago's MLB teams to see this.

You look at Quintana's record and you would think that he is not a very good pitcher. Then look at some of his other stats and you would change your stance a bit.

You look at Jake Arrietta's W-L record, and you would probably think he is having a great year. Then you delve into some of his other stats, especially over the last month, and "great" would be the furthest thing from your mind.

For the record, I think both guys are having really good seasons so far.

Author:  Brick [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

How important are championships?

Author:  jimmypasta [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

The Cubs most consistent pitcher is 7-6.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:32 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
The Cubs most consistent pitcher is 7-6.


Sounds like he's consistently average.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
How important are championships?


meaningless

Competing is what is important. Bites at the apple are a test of greatness.

Author:  Phil McCracken [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Is Joe Flacco overrated?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How important are wins?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
How important are championships?

Attendance Championships are very important for some.

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