Chus wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing.
Robin Ventura lights up a room. Then, he lights up Nolan Ryan.
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
rogers park bryan wrote: badrogue17 wrote: We're definitely going to have to identify the poor souls who were truly great pitchers but couldn't pitch over their poor run support Like Nolan Ryan I would argue that Nolan Ryan had great abilities, but he was somewhat less than a great pitcher. He's a freakish guy. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
rogers park bryan wrote: badrogue17 wrote: We're definitely going to have to identify the poor souls who were truly great pitchers but couldn't pitch over their poor run support Like Nolan Ryan Is Nolan Ryan a HoFer without the strikeouts? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Schilling Bumgarner and Morris are hall of famers Bumgarner isn't there yet. Morris has had his chances and SABRmetrics aren't helping him. Schilling is a maybe. I wouldn't put any of them or Johan Santana in before Doc Gooden. Gooden is in mine for sure. I think they reward longevity too much and don't appreciate shorter term dominance. Bumgarner Schilling and Morris are in for the post season stuff. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
My Ryan comment was just giving Rogue shit. I'm biased on Ryan cause I hate him. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
Frank Coztansa wrote: He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing. Robin Ventura lights up a room. Then, he lights up Nolan Ryan. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hall of Fame Starting Pitchers |
Chus wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: He was a less than great fighter, too. Its not often a guy has someone in a headlock and ends up losing. Robin Ventura lights up a room. Then, he lights up Nolan Ryan.
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