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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:47 pm ] |
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Who do you got? |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:49 pm ] |
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Quintana |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:49 pm ] |
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2005. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:51 pm ] |
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Boys of Zimmer. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:53 pm ] |
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Hitting wise would have to be Babe Ruth the season he put up crazy numbers. Pitching Carlton when he won like 30 games on a 59 win team. Or Pedro in one of his dominant seasons. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:00 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: Hitting wise would have to be Babe Ruth the season he put up crazy numbers. Pitching Carlton when he won like 30 games on a 59 win team. Or Pedro in one of his dominant seasons. I think Bonds had like a .630 OBP the year he hit 73 home runs |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:02 pm ] |
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John Hiller 1973 |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:07 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: John Hiller 1973 Why? |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:17 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: John Hiller 1973 Why? Did you look him up? Greatest season ever for a reliever. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:19 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: John Hiller 1973 Why? Did you look him up? Greatest season ever for a reliever. I saw the 38 saves and that he did it after a heart attack but I thought his 1974 season was better. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:41 pm ] |
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Sammy Sosa HR record |
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| Author: | DannyB [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:13 pm ] |
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In modern times Yaz in 1967. I think he had a WAR 5 points ahead of the 2nd place guy. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:24 pm ] |
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Bonds' final fake year, 2004. OB% (.609) + Slg% (.812) = OPS (1.422) In 147 games, he had 617 PAs but only 373 ABs Only 41 Ks vs. 232 Walks, of which 120 were intentional More traditionally, 1921 Babe Ruth. Unrelated to this, I want Miguel Montero to be dropped out of an airplane, preferably one that's at least 15k' in the air. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:47 am ] |
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Dick Allen 1972. It's hard to put into context just how HUGE this season was, especially in light of all the inflated numbers that came in the steroid/offensive era. For a long time I didn't think anyone could have a better offensive season than that. Maybe I still don't. This was in a ballpark where the entire home team hit 70 homers a few years before. I remember looking at Frank's big years and comparing them to Allen's and being puzzled. On paper, Frank had for sure one and arguably several seasons that were better than Allen in 1972. But actually living through the seasons, no way did Frank ever have a year as good as what Allen did in '72. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:36 am ] |
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Maddux 1995. only counts if the player's team wins it all. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:48 am ] |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:15 am ] |
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Hack Wilson 190 RBI's. Wilson's 1930 season, aided by a lively ball wound with special Australian wool, is considered one of the best single-season hitting performances in baseball history.[2][48] By the middle of July he had accumulated 82 RBIs. In August he hit 13 home runs and 53 RBIs, and by September 15 he had reached 176 RBIs, breaking Lou Gehrig's major league record established three years earlier.[2] He ended the season with 190, along with an NL-record 56 home runs, .356 batting average, .454 on-base percentage, and league-leading .723 slugging percentage.[1] He was unofficially voted the NL's most "useful" player by the Baseball Writers' Association of America (which did not inaugurate its official MVP award until 1931).[49] |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:26 pm ] |
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Sosa 2001 328 avg 64 HR 160 RBI 1.174 OPS 10.3 WAR |
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| Author: | Matches Malone [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:13 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Sosa 2001 328 avg 64 HR 160 RBI 1.174 OPS 10.3 WAR What's insane is that Bonds had a better year. Hit 328 with 73 HR's, 137 RBI, 177 BB, 129 Runs, 515 OBP and Slugged 863 for a 1.378 OPS in a 153 games. And he stole 13 bases just because. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:26 pm ] |
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Matches Malone wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Sosa 2001 328 avg 64 HR 160 RBI 1.174 OPS 10.3 WAR What's insane is that Bonds had a better year. Hit 328 with 73 HR's, 137 RBI, 177 BB, 129 Runs, 515 OBP and Slugged 863 for a 1.378 OPS in a 153 games. And he stole 13 bases just because. I just loved 2004 because of the preposterous IBB numbers, including IBBs issued with the bases loaded. 
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| Author: | Matches Malone [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:44 pm ] |
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Don Tiny wrote: I just loved 2004 because of the preposterous IBB numbers, including IBBs issued with the bases loaded. Those early 2000's roided up monsters were something to watch. You could draft a Raul Mondesi in the 5th round of your fantasy draft and pencil him in for 40 bombs. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:45 pm ] |
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Matches Malone wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Sosa 2001 328 avg 64 HR 160 RBI 1.174 OPS 10.3 WAR What's insane is that Bonds had a better year. Doesn't that tell you how silly and phony it was? |
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| Author: | Matches Malone [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:51 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Matches Malone wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Sosa 2001 328 avg 64 HR 160 RBI 1.174 OPS 10.3 WAR What's insane is that Bonds had a better year. Doesn't that tell you how silly and phony it was? I love everything about baseball and it's history, but count me among those who loved the steroid era. Kids 70 years from now will look back upon those years the same way I did when I read baseball almanacs and saw some of the hitting stats of guys like Wee Willie Keeler, Cobb, etc..., with utter disbelief. And I've since come to believe that a lot of the record keeping/official scoring back then wasn't always on the up and up. |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:25 pm ] |
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DannyB wrote: In modern times Yaz in 1967. I think he had a WAR 5 points ahead of the 2nd place guy. Ruth '21 Gehrig '27 UL Washington '79 Good call on Yaz. Dick Allen's numbers with the Sox are also kind of amazing, given the fact that he played in the second dead ball era and at Comiskey.... |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:53 am ] |
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You can look at a guy like Roy Sievers in 1957 and there is no park factor than can accurately portray how difficult it was to hit in his home ballpark. I believe there was a season at Griffith Stadium when nobody hit a homer there the entire year. Also, he played a bunch of games at Comiskey when it was near impossible to hit homers there. |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:54 am ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I believe there was a season at Griffith Stadium when nobody hit a homer there the entire year. Over-the-fence home runs? |
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| Author: | Godfella [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:14 am ] |
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1990 White Sox finished in second place with a 94-68 record. Bobby Thigpen had AL leading 57 saves with a 1.83 ERA. Thigpen was the AL Rolaids Relief Man Award (Remember that?). That is a great individual season. I remember Sox Ed Farmer battling Royals' Dan Quisenberry for the 1980 AL saves leader. Farmio had 30 saves that year for a 70 win Sox team. Quisenberry had 33 saves and won the award that year. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:56 am ] |
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Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Hitting wise would have to be Babe Ruth the season he put up crazy numbers. Pitching Carlton when he won like 30 games on a 59 win team. Or Pedro in one of his dominant seasons. I think Bonds had like a .630 OBP the year he hit 73 home runs I'm no fan of the juicers but that's the best season I've ever seen, he could have hit 200 homers that year if they pitched to him and he was hitting in a pitchers park. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:16 am ] |
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formerlyknownas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I believe there was a season at Griffith Stadium when nobody hit a homer there the entire year. Over-the-fence home runs? Yeah, I'm not 100% positive about that, but it believe it was the case some time during the 40s. Maybe just no Senator hit one at home. |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:58 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: formerlyknownas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I believe there was a season at Griffith Stadium when nobody hit a homer there the entire year. Over-the-fence home runs? Yeah, I'm not 100% positive about that, but it believe it was the case some time during the 40s. Maybe just no Senator hit one at home. That's really interesting--hadn't ever heard that. Gonna try to find out about that this week. I did find out that the Sox hit 22 home runs in 1945. Part-time right-fielder Guy Cutright led the way with a whopping four. I know they had 3 in 1908, and that there was a rather large war going on, and that they were playing half their games in Comiskey . . . but Christ Jesus. 22 home runs? Hell of an interesting lineup, too. They had Johnny Dickshot, who seems to have the greatest name in baseball history. Johnny disappeared from the game after 1939, but reappeared in '44 when the MLB needed numbers. Then there's Roy Schalk. Not to be confused with Sox great Ray Schalk, Roy was apparently born and raised in Chicago. He had a cup of coffee with the Yankees in 1932, and then returned to the bigs in 1944. Looks like he had two decent seasons. He even received a few MVP votes in 1945. Eddie Lopat was a young pitcher. They also had Thornton Lee. Not a bad staff. Not a good one, but not a bad one (at least based on a cursory glance of the stats and their reputations). I'm changing my board nickname to Johnny Dickshot. |
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