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Does Billy Beane cry himself to sleep at night?
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Author:  Brick [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Does Billy Beane cry himself to sleep at night?

Seeing what Theo has done and how he has owned him has to really get him down.

The amount of players that were on the A's(or in the A's system) who are now contributing to the Cubs is pretty big.

On quick glance:
Addison Russell
Jason Hammel
Jon Lester
Ben Zobrist


Then, when Billy goes to sleep, he gets to dream of Kenny Williams flashing his World Series ring at him.

Poor Billy Beane. At least he got a book and movie deal! Take that GM's with rings!

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:20 pm ]
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Well, I'm pretty sure Billy Beane does dream about men.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:48 pm ]
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Addison Russell is really the only one for Beane to lament of those four. Zobrist and Lester were rentals, and while the A's obviously want to extract as much value from every player as possible, Lester got them to the postseason and Zobrist fetched some parts from Kansas City. Russell for Samardzija could prove to be a first-order fleecing, but in the grand scheme of things it just evens up from the times Beane got six years of Jerry Blevins for two months of Jason Kendall, or Josh Donaldson for Rich Harden.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:50 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Well, I'm pretty sure Billy Beane does dream about men.


That's Billy Bean. Different guy.

Author:  Beardown [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:50 pm ]
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Right. The A's couldn't afford those vets anyway. But they fucked up on Russell. Then again, they had a great team and he was trying to win a World Series.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:55 pm ]
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It seems like he likes the small market or fears the big one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave

Author:  Beardown [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:57 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
It seems like he likes the small market or fears the bog one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave


Nah. Give him credit. He wants to try to win in poor Oakland. That's noble.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:57 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Right. The A's couldn't afford those vets anyway. But they fucked up on Russell. Then again, they had a great team and he was trying to win a World Series.
I'm sure that makes his empty hands feel better.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:58 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
It seems like he likes the small market or fears the bog one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave


Nah. Give him credit. He wants to try to win in poor Oakland. That's noble.
Yeah. What have the A's ever won?

Author:  Beardown [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:00 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
It seems like he likes the small market or fears the bog one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave


Nah. Give him credit. He wants to try to win in poor Oakland. That's noble.
Yeah. What have the A's ever won?


Yeah. Then won in the 70s and 80s.

The point being the haves and have nots were different back then. There is a bigger margin between the poor teams and the rich teams in this era. That's my point.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:06 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
It seems like he likes the small market or fears the bog one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave


Nah. Give him credit. He wants to try to win in poor Oakland. That's noble.
Yeah. What have the A's ever won?


Yeah. Then won in the 70s and 80s.

The point being the haves and have nots were different back then. There is a bigger margin between the poor teams and the rich teams in this era. That's my point.
So should we then discount GMs who won with high payrolls?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:07 pm ]
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Maybe he just loves living in O-Town

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:40 pm ]
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He won't cry himself to sleep over Russell...he won't have much of a career.

sin

jorr

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:00 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
He won't cry himself to sleep over Russell...he won't have much of a career.

sin

jorr



I haven't made a prediction on Russell one way or another. I just wouldn't expect him to be radically different than he is when it comes to his control of the strikezone.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:16 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
He won't cry himself to sleep over Russell...he won't have much of a career.

sin

jorr



I haven't made a prediction on Russell one way or another. I just wouldn't expect him to be radically different than he is when it comes to his control of the strikezone.


Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Jorr...who has better career..Addy or Anderson?


I think you'd obviously have to say Russell, but neither one has much of a career.


Did I misread this? It's not a prediction?

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:19 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
He won't cry himself to sleep over Russell...he won't have much of a career.

sin

jorr



I haven't made a prediction on Russell one way or another. I just wouldn't expect him to be radically different than he is when it comes to his control of the strikezone.


Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Jorr...who has better career..Addy or Anderson?


I think you'd obviously have to say Russell, but neither one has much of a career.


Did I misread this? It's not a prediction?


That's not a prediction. I was talking about what they've done to this point.

Author:  Brick [ Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:17 am ]
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Now smashmouth made him cry.

http://deadspin.com/oakland-as-get-very-defensive-when-reasonably-critiqued-1788362056

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:27 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Beardown wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
It seems like he likes the small market or fears the bog one. The Boston job was his. He backed out. He's had offers. Kinda weird actually.

Like if The Butler coach refused to ever leave


Nah. Give him credit. He wants to try to win in poor Oakland. That's noble.
Yeah. What have the A's ever won?


Yeah. Then won in the 70s and 80s.

The point being the haves and have nots were different back then. There is a bigger margin between the poor teams and the rich teams in this era. That's my point.

In Oakland's case, that's not quite true. The A's of the early 70s were so strapped for cash that they sold players. Charlie Finley, the owner (a Chicagoan who wanted to move them here), was poor in comparison to every other owner. He was under enormous financial pressure, but he managed to build one of the great all-time teams.

The Samardzija trade wasn't bad--after all, the A's were trying to win it that year. If they'd have won it, it would have been worth it. Risky, but they were tired of doing nothing in the playoffs. I'd even call it a Whitesoxian move, except that the A's were actually in the damn playoffs.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:48 pm ]
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The A's never had a ton of money under Charlie Finley (attendance was shit, even for the '70s when all baseball games seemed to be half-empty), but they fared much better later on when the Levi's heirs owned them. At the same time, the Giants were perpetually cash-strapped and had one foot out the door for St. Petersburg until their sale and steps toward building Pac Bell Park.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:01 am ]
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I'm sure he did last night.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:36 am ]
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The guy got desperate for his legacy to be something other than romance novel by Michael Lewis, a mediocre movie and a long, regular season win streak.

We all do stupid things in desperate moments.

That was a bad trade from the get go. Samardzija seems to have some magical power to cause smart people to make stupid decisions

Author:  Brick [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:32 am ]
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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:02 pm ]
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