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Yeah, man, second option.

I'd offer 5 years / $140M and hope he says yes. Maybe a little higher. Not sure I like 6 or 7 years though.

leashyourkids wrote:

Absolutely not.

So why did you choose "fuck off Jbi11s then"?

Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter.

Ron Wolfley wrote:

If you sign Harper, the teams will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune.

Looking at the 2018 Free Agent SP's .... that's a lot of 'oy'.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/

I would but only for the 2nd option.

But that aint happening. Jake looking better lately is going to make sure that does not happen. Some team will give him the huge deal Boras will want.

Ron Wolfley wrote:

If you sign Harper, the team will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune.

Jbi11s wrote:

Ron Wolfley wrote:

2022 Free Agents:

Anthony Rizzo
Addison Russell
Kris Bryant
Javy Baez
Kyle Schwarber

2023 + 2024 Free Agents:

Wilson Contreras ('23)
Albert Almora ('23)
Jason Heyward ('24)

All of those guys are not replacement level players. Harper would be playing with everyone for 3 full seasons. Theo's repeated that the idea is to get to the playoffs each of the next five seasons and compete for championships because his deal will be up after that time (winter 2021). Jed can figure out the rest when he takes over.

Jbi11s wrote:

Ron Wolfley wrote:

Good thing the Cubs are making fortunes.

The Cubs still wouldn't be close to a team like the Dodgers.

Ron Wolfley wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Ron Wolfley wrote:

Bryant, Contreras, Rizzo are my priority guys barring injury right now.

What I think you're telling me tho, is if Harper signs after the 2018 season we could potentially have 3 or 4 seasons of the most loaded offensive Cubs team I have ever seen. Correct?

Sprinkle in some young pitchers from the farm system, and I could see some great things continuing.

Looking at the 2018 Free Agent SP's .... that's a lot of 'oy'.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/

You guys are nuts, I wouldn't offer him anything more than a year 22 million.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:55 am ]
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That late movement on his pitches is back since the all star break, and he is a solid playoff contributor. If you were Jed Epstein what would you do after the season?

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:04 pm ]
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I chose the second option because I couldn't stomach giving him the $200+ million his agent will ask for. There's way too many younger, not yet tapped their prime players to pay on this roster.

Author:	IMU [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:12 pm ]
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Yeah, man, second option. I'd offer 5 years / $140M and hope he says yes. Maybe a little higher. Not sure I like 6 or 7 years though.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:15 pm ]
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only if the contract explicitly states he stays on whatever juice he's on now.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:26 pm ]
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IMU wrote: Yeah, man, second option. I'd offer 5 years / $140M and hope he says yes. Maybe a little higher. Not sure I like 6 or 7 years though. No way 6 or 7 years. Nothing over $150 million. Going to see just how much he loves this team and organization during the offseason because there will def be a team or two or three overbidding for his services.

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Author:	leashyourkids [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:32 pm ]
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Absolutely not.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:33 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote: Absolutely not. So why did you choose "fuck off Jbi11s then"?

Author:	Don Tiny [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:36 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: leashyourkids wrote: Absolutely not. So why did you choose "fuck off Jbi11s then"? Principle, I'm sure. You and IMU more or less have it right ... I'd just say 'show me the numbers' and then answer, but definitely not what Boras wants.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:39 pm ]
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I would but only for the 2nd option. But that aint happening. Jake looking better lately is going to make sure that does not happen. Some team will give him the huge deal Boras will want.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:45 pm ]
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The one major distress I have about the farm system is there is no Ace level arm being talked about. Just one young high caliber pitcher would alleviate the minor anxiety I have about how long this window can stay open.

Author:	Ron Wolfley [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:48 pm ]
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Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:51 pm ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the team will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune.

Author:	IMU [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:53 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the teams will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune. Good thing the Cubs are making fortunes. The Cubs still wouldn't be close to a team like the Dodgers.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:04 pm ]
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Looking at the 2018 Free Agent SP's .... that's a lot of 'oy'. http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/

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Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:09 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Looking at the 2018 Free Agent SP's .... that's a lot of 'oy'. http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/ Which makes it all the more distressing there isn't an ace being talked about in the farm system. Edit: LoL maybe I'm wrong tho. Our top 5 prospects now are pitchers. http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/index.jsp?c_id=chc Maybe the window is firmly open for longer than I thought.

Author:	Minooka Meatball [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:15 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: I would but only for the 2nd option. But that aint happening. Jake looking better lately is going to make sure that does not happen. Some team will give him the huge deal Boras will want. Yup. Would do it for 4 years max, but zero percent chance that happens.

Author:	Ron Wolfley [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:20 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the team will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune. 2022 Free Agents: Anthony Rizzo Addison Russell Kris Bryant Javy Baez Kyle Schwarber 2023 + 2024 Free Agents: Wilson Contreras ('23) Albert Almora ('23) Jason Heyward ('24) All of those guys are not replacement level players. Harper would be playing with everyone for 3 full seasons. Theo's repeated that the idea is to get to the playoffs each of the next five seasons and compete for championships because his deal will be up after that time (winter 2021). Jed can figure out the rest when he takes over.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:23 pm ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the team will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune. 2022 Free Agents: Anthony Rizzo Addison Russell Kris Bryant Javy Baez Kyle Schwarber 2023 + 2024 Free Agents: Wilson Contreras ('23) Albert Almora ('23) Jason Heyward ('24) All of those guys are not replacement level players. Harper would be playing with everyone for 3 full seasons. Theo's repeated that the idea is to get to the playoffs each of the next five seasons and compete for championships because his deal will be up after that time (winter 2021). Jed can figure out the rest when he takes over. Bryant, Contreras, Rizzo are my priority guys barring injury right now. What I think you're telling me tho, is if Harper signs after the 2018 season we could potentially have 3 or 4 seasons of the most loaded offensive Cubs team I have ever seen. Correct? Sprinkle in some young pitchers from the farm system, and I could see some great things continuing.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:25 pm ]
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Thanks for doing the leg work on the contracts Wolfley. Appreciate it.

Author:	Ron Wolfley [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:40 pm ]
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IMU wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the teams will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune. Good thing the Cubs are making fortunes. The Cubs still wouldn't be close to a team like the Dodgers. Kershaw is opting out after next season. Both the Dodgers and Cubs will have about $72 million committed to the 2019 payroll. Are the Dodgers going to spend $600 or $700 million next winter on Kershaw and Harper?

Author:	Ron Wolfley [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:43 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Jake is looking for a huge contract because it'll be his last. Boras can get him one. I doubt Jake will take a "hometown" discount. If Jake isn't a Cub next season, Theo better use that money to go after Harper the following winter. If you sign Harper, the team will be Harper, Bryant, and a bunch of replacement level players by 2020. I love the thought of having two of the very best baseball players on the same team, but man, it would cost a fortune. 2022 Free Agents: Anthony Rizzo Addison Russell Kris Bryant Javy Baez Kyle Schwarber 2023 + 2024 Free Agents: Wilson Contreras ('23) Albert Almora ('23) Jason Heyward ('24) All of those guys are not replacement level players. Harper would be playing with everyone for 3 full seasons. Theo's repeated that the idea is to get to the playoffs each of the next five seasons and compete for championships because his deal will be up after that time (winter 2021). Jed can figure out the rest when he takes over. Bryant, Contreras, Rizzo are my priority guys barring injury right now. What I think you're telling me tho, is if Harper signs after the 2018 season we could potentially have 3 or 4 seasons of the most loaded offensive Cubs team I have ever seen. Correct? Sprinkle in some young pitchers from the farm system, and I could see some great things continuing. Yessir. I'd love to see that offense every day.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:27 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Looking at the 2018 Free Agent SP's .... that's a lot of 'oy'. http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/starting-pitcher/ Bronson Arroyo is still cashing MLB checks? Holy shit.

Author:	312player [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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You guys are nuts, I wouldn't offer him anything more than a year 22 million.

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:17 am ]
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312player wrote: You guys are nuts, I wouldn't offer him anything more than a year 22 million. I tend to agree...nothing long-term. Arrieta and Boras would probably not even consider that though.