Jbi11s wrote:
Finally batting Bryant where he should be. It only took 3/4 of the season.
It only took a 15-16 stretch for him to get the hint.
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
RFDC wrote: pittmike wrote: This is typical Cub fandom. Dusty was the have to have manager until he sucked and he was the worst. Same with Pinella. Now it will be Maddon's turn. Typical pittmike bullshit. You are welcome. Let me know how else I may help. What is BS is to deny that Cub fans years ago in separate instances clamored for the current available miracle manager. Dusty and Pinella at the time were must have. They were their latest and greatest hopes. When they failed they were blamed and ran out of town as well as were ridiculed as clowns. Now after even winning a WS the similar stirrings are beginning under Maddon's seat. A seat getting hotter by the day. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
Dusty wasn't the same after 2003. He was shellshocked. He lost that swagger he came here with. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
pittmike wrote: RFDC wrote: pittmike wrote: This is typical Cub fandom. Dusty was the have to have manager until he sucked and he was the worst. Same with Pinella. Now it will be Maddon's turn. Typical pittmike bullshit. You are welcome. Let me know how else I may help. What is BS is to deny that Cub fans years ago in separate instances clamored for the current available miracle manager. Dusty and Pinella at the time were must have. They were their latest and greatest hopes. When they failed they were blamed and ran out of town as well as were ridiculed as clowns. Now after even winning a WS the similar stirrings are beginning under Maddon's seat. A seat getting hotter by the day. That describes literally every fanbase in sports. You just apply any negative sports fan tropes to Cub fans specifically. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
rogers park bryan wrote: pittmike wrote: RFDC wrote: pittmike wrote: This is typical Cub fandom. Dusty was the have to have manager until he sucked and he was the worst. Same with Pinella. Now it will be Maddon's turn. Typical pittmike bullshit. You are welcome. Let me know how else I may help. What is BS is to deny that Cub fans years ago in separate instances clamored for the current available miracle manager. Dusty and Pinella at the time were must have. They were their latest and greatest hopes. When they failed they were blamed and ran out of town as well as were ridiculed as clowns. Now after even winning a WS the similar stirrings are beginning under Maddon's seat. A seat getting hotter by the day. That describes literally every fanbase in sports. You just apply any negative sports fan tropes to Cub fans specifically. Sorry I really do think the pre WS Cub fan base was more desperate and this aspect was more exaggerated. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
No need to apologize. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
rogers park bryan wrote: pittmike wrote: RFDC wrote: pittmike wrote: This is typical Cub fandom. Dusty was the have to have manager until he sucked and he was the worst. Same with Pinella. Now it will be Maddon's turn. Typical pittmike bullshit. You are welcome. Let me know how else I may help. What is BS is to deny that Cub fans years ago in separate instances clamored for the current available miracle manager. Dusty and Pinella at the time were must have. They were their latest and greatest hopes. When they failed they were blamed and ran out of town as well as were ridiculed as clowns. Now after even winning a WS the similar stirrings are beginning under Maddon's seat. A seat getting hotter by the day. That describes literally every fanbase in sports. You just apply any negative sports fan tropes to Cub fans specifically. Nah Cub fans really are the worst |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
You guys sure about these results? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:05 pm ] |
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Jbi11s wrote: You guys sure about these results? READS JUST FINE |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
No managers matter, that much. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
Finally batting Bryant where he should be. It only took 3/4 of the season. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
Jbi11s wrote: Finally batting Bryant where he should be. It only took 3/4 of the season. It only took a 15-16 stretch for him to get the hint.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
Bryant batting 2nd would be fine if they didnt have a historically bad performance by the lead off guy. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:14 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Bryant batting 2nd would be fine if they didnt have a historically bad performance by the lead off guy. Sorry, but no. Still not maximizing his RBI potential that way. If this were an American League team I would agree, but Joe has been a stubborn egotistical asshole most of this season. Don't defend the guy, RPB. Maddon has a had a bad year. It happens. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:17 pm ] |
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Im not defending Maddon. Im defending having your best hitter bat 2nd which is usually the right place for them. He batted there half the year last season and 102 RBI's |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:19 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Im not defending Maddon. Im defending having your best hitter bat 2nd which is usually the right place for them. He batted there half the year last season and 102 RBI's Didn't they also bat the pitcher 8th most of last season, and plug in Baez or Russell at the 9 spot? I'm saying this lineup is different, and Joe did not adjust until the middle of August. That's awful managing. Too much hubris for me. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:21 pm ] |
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Not finding a lead off guy until late July also hurt this team no doubt. I def agree with you there RPB. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
Jbi11s wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Im not defending Maddon. Im defending having your best hitter bat 2nd which is usually the right place for them. He batted there half the year last season and 102 RBI's Didn't they also bat the pitcher 8th most of last season, and plug in Baez or Russell at the 9 spot? I'm saying this lineup is different, and Joe did not adjust until the middle of August. That's awful managing. Too much hubris for me. My original statement stands. If they had Dexter Fowler 2016 there, it would be fine. Im in the managers barely matter camp anyway. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Jbi11s wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Im not defending Maddon. Im defending having your best hitter bat 2nd which is usually the right place for them. He batted there half the year last season and 102 RBI's Didn't they also bat the pitcher 8th most of last season, and plug in Baez or Russell at the 9 spot? I'm saying this lineup is different, and Joe did not adjust until the middle of August. That's awful managing. Too much hubris for me. My original statement stands. If they had Dexter Fowler 2016 there, it would be fine. Im in the managers barely matter camp anyway. It wouldn't be that fine. Zobrist, Schwarber, and a mia Russell are hurting this lineup. Dex hasn't had that good of year, right? I think managers matter a little bit more than most people give them credit for. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Better manager: Dusty or Merlot Joe? |
I did specify 2016 Dex Fowler. There is an argument. I just believe the best hitter batting 2nd makes sense in the current climate. |
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