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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:25 pm 
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His pitching walks are alarmingly high this year.

He won't feel out of place on the Cubs then.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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His pitching walks are alarmingly high this year.

Yes but it’s a small sample size. He only threw 25 innings because of an ankle injury. He has a 3-1 career k-bb ratio.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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When does he plan on making his decision?


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I'm not sure he has to pitch every fifth day his first year. He's probably going to be on an innings limit given the longer season (20 starts in NPB vs 32 starts in MLB). Let him do the Ted Lyons Sunday Starter deal, and adjust the #4/#5 starters accordingly. When the #1 starter is supposed to go on Sunday, which should happen about every 4th start, skip his start.

Why Sunday? More often than not, a Sunday day game is followed by either a Monday night game or a day off. More time to recover. Let him play the field Tue/Wed/Thu, pinch hit Fri/Sat.

He will get 23-24 starts, probably a half dozen Travis Wood 1-2 batter relief appearances while playing LF, and get about 65 starts at LF/DH and 35 PH appearances for about 300 PA.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Relief pitcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Cashman wrote:
When does he plan on making his decision?

He has 21 days to negotiate a deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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When does he plan on making his decision?

He has 21 days to negotiate a deal.

Where do you think he winds up?

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Seattle. If Ichiro was anywhere other than Florida, I'd say "wherever Ichiro is."


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Seattle. If Ichiro was anywhere other than Florida, I'd say "wherever Ichiro is."




He said he isn't interested in playing with other japanese players.

I've seen straight up bums go to Japan and hit like Barry Bonds. I doubt this guys bat is anything special.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Seattle seems to be the most aggressive. Both LA teams make a lot of sense too.


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Seattle seems to be the most aggressive. Both LA teams make a lot of sense too.

I guess I would want to know what his goals are in the MLB. If it is to have an easier flight home Seattle makes sense. Otherwise why?


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Word is he wants to play for the Cubs for free.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Seattle seems to be the most aggressive. Both LA teams make a lot of sense too.

I guess I would want to know what his goals are in the MLB. If it is to have an easier flight home Seattle makes sense. Otherwise why?

Seattle has a large Japanese population and the Mariners were owned by a Japanese Company (Nintendo) who I think still owns a small percentage. Plus it makes sense on the field as they can really use him in their rotation. All that said and he could just as easily end up on the fuckin Yankees.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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He will go to the city that does not racka da disiprin.

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Sox were eliminated...


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Sox were eliminated...


I heard Yankees also.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Word is he wants to play for the Cubs for free.


So do I.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Cubs appear to still be alive.


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Sources briefed on Ohtani cutdown tell me "heavy West Coast" flavor to final list. #Cubs a possible exception along with SEA, SF, SD and both LA clubs.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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The Rangers and Cubs are the only non-west coast teams he's going to meet with. Seattle, San Fran, San Diego and both LA teams are on his list.


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Otani's translator is Hideo Nomo's son. Nomo works in SD's front office. Otani's former trainer works for SD.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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MLB executive just told me that Theo and Jed are pulling out all of the stops to impress Ohtani. “Theo and Jed are being incredibly creative with their pitch. They’ve thought of everything. And I mean everything. Still going to be tough to land him but they are in there hard.”
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MLB executive just told me that Theo and Jed are pulling out all of the stops to impress Ohtani. “Theo and Jed are being incredibly creative with their pitch. They’ve thought of everything. And I mean everything. Still going to be tough to land him but they are in there hard.”
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Sounds like Dan Bernstein. Theo and Jed are really really smart like this!


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Given what I've read, I would put my money on the Angels (with a small backup bet on the Mariners.)

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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MLB executive just told me that Theo and Jed are pulling out all of the stops to impress Ohtani. “Theo and Jed are being incredibly creative with their pitch. They’ve thought of everything. And I mean everything. Still going to be tough to land him but they are in there hard.”
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Sounds like Dan Bernstein. Theo and Jed are really really smart like this!

I don’t know about you but my eyes are getting slanty already

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Theo needs to rock a Hory Kow shirt to the meeting.

I was originally sold on him going to the Angels but the Padres are right up there too. I did not realize he is related to or mentored by hideo nomo and he works for the Padres. No pressure there and I don't think there is single team that plays in more pitcher friendly stadiums than the Padres when you factor in their along with LA and SF.

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If this kid wants to be THE MAN, then leading the Padres legitimately to the WS (as opposed to stealing an extra home game in 1984) would be right up there. And the Padres young GM just got extended to 2022.


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If this kid wants to be THE MAN, then leading the Padres legitimately to the WS (as opposed to stealing an extra home game in 1984) would be right up there. And the Padres young GM just got extended to 2022.



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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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My sources say he's meeting with Theo next week, 33% chance we land him.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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My sources say he's meeting with Theo next week, 33% chance we land him.

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Ohtani’s meetings today: #Cubs (per sources); #Mariners (per @RyanDivish); #Rangers (per @Evan_P_Grant). That would leave #Padres and #Angels, presumably for tomorrow.
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