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Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:03 pm ]
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Pitt won’t get much. They should have traded him last year but at least it makes room for Meadows.

I wonder if the Gigantes are still in on Cain after this move. They can sure use another OF but they may want to go for a cheaper option now.

Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:35 pm ]
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This was the only logical landing place for McCutchen. With him and Cole gone, and Josh Harrison most likely soon to follow, entire rows at PNC will be available very cheaply.

McCutchen is probably my favorite non-Cub player of this generation. His skills are starting to fade, but he's a really classy guy who carried that team and is probably the reason they are not in Portland or Montreal right now. Reminds me of a Billy Williams with less power and much better defense.

A good SI article on him: https://www.si.com/vault/2014/09/08/106 ... -the-house

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:52 pm ]
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Got nothing for him. Wouldn’t have minded seeing him in CF at Wrigley for a year.

Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:54 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Got nothing for him. Wouldn’t have minded seeing him in CF at Wrigley for a year.

The few remaining Pirates fans would have burned PNC Park to the ground if they had traded him inside the division.

Now, might we see him as a Cub in July once the Giants realize that they can't get their act together? That would be interesting.

Author:  schmitty1121 [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:51 pm ]
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Really not sure what the Giants are doing. They must really think the Mad Bum injury was the reason they were a suckfest last year. They really have to hope the division comes back to them. I don't think you can trust the Rockies because you never know from year to year how the pitching will be in Colorado. If Arizona is able to sign back J.D Martinez, they could be the favorites. The Dodgers are supposed to have that WS hangover, so we will see.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:12 pm ]
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The Grandy Man signed with the Blue Jays. This makes me very happy. He’s an all time great guy.

Author:  America [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:18 am ]
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The Giants are going to be good next year if they can sort out their pitching a bit.

Author:  America [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:19 am ]
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They are basically doing the White Sox retool and compete every year thing. Smart, because I think that can work in the weak-ass NL and they have a really good core around which to build.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:26 am ]
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America wrote:
The Giants are going to be good next year if they can sort out their pitching a bit.

read: Madison bumgarner doesn't go dirt-biking.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:30 pm ]
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Long piece on Alex Cobb for those interested:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/ ... -cobb.html

Author:  '77Cubs [ Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:55 pm ]
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Jeff Passan
‏Verified account @JeffPassan
41m41 minutes ago

Jeff Passan Retweeted Jon Heyman

Austin Jackson was a two-win player last year. That's worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $15M in value for one season. He got a total of $6M guaranteed for two seasons. The bottoming out of this market is staggering, and what's scary is that this is just the beginning.

Jeff Passan added,
Jon Heyman
Verified account @JonHeyman
Sources: Austin Jackson to giants. 6M, 2 Years. Elevators coukd take it to 8.5M.
46 replies 149 retweets 257 likes
Jeff Passan
‏Verified account @JeffPassan
11m11 minutes ago

In retrospect, as some smart people are telling me, the $/WAR model probably not proper for valuing Austin Jackson's market in this case. I saw him similar to Chris Young, who got two years and $13M, but Jackson had a few off years before comeback last season.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:04 pm ]
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He was worthless on the Sox.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:21 am ]
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Keyser Soze wrote:
He was worthless on the Sox.


Even if he sucked, his presence allowed Eaton to move to right and show all the talent he had that lead to a very good trade for the Sox, but I don't think he sucked

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:41 am ]
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He got hurt on the Sox. He was fine before he got hurt, and had a good season with Indians.

This is just further proof that when Keyser doesn't like a player- for any reason whatsoever- he refuses to give him credit when its due.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:32 pm ]
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'77Cubs wrote:
Jeff Passan
‏Verified account @JeffPassan
41m41 minutes ago

Jeff Passan Retweeted Jon Heyman

Austin Jackson was a two-win player last year. That's worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $15M in value for one season. He got a total of $6M guaranteed for two seasons. The bottoming out of this market is staggering, and what's scary is that this is just the beginning.

Jeff Passan added,
Jon Heyman
Verified account @JonHeyman
Sources: Austin Jackson to giants. 6M, 2 Years. Elevators coukd take it to 8.5M.
46 replies 149 retweets 257 likes
Jeff Passan
‏Verified account @JeffPassan
11m11 minutes ago

In retrospect, as some smart people are telling me, the $/WAR model probably not proper for valuing Austin Jackson's market in this case. I saw him similar to Chris Young, who got two years and $13M, but Jackson had a few off years before comeback last season.

My bad man. Didn't see this post before inadvertently Beardowning you.

Author:  reents [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:57 pm ]
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schmitty1121 wrote:
Really not sure what the Giants are doing. They must really think the Mad Bum injury was the reason they were a suckfest last year. They really have to hope the division comes back to them. I don't think you can trust the Rockies because you never know from year to year how the pitching will be in Colorado. If Arizona is able to sign back J.D Martinez, they could be the favorites. The Dodgers are supposed to have that WS hangover, so we will see.


Agree with your thoughts on the West, the Rockies and will throw the Diamondbacks in this too, last year they probably snuck up on people, won't be able to do that this year.

I would say the Dodgers are still the favorites, but understand the WS hangover.

THe Giants will be hoping guys can still perform like they have for their old teams.

Author:  reents [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:59 pm ]
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I kinda hope Darvish goes to the Brewers, they had a decent season last year, were still in the playoff hunt going into the last weekend, gives them a little more hope coming into the season.

Were do you think Carlos Gonzalez goes, a little surprised the Rockies aren't keeping them and they may after all.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:43 am ]
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Jon Morosi
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25m25 minutes ago

Source: Yu Darvish is increasingly likely to sign with an @MLB team this week. #Twins are among the teams with whom he is engaged in ongoing discussions. @MLBNetwork

Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:06 pm ]
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Thirty days until Spring Training ... the following folks are still unsigned:

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Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:07 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Thirty days until Spring Training ... the following folks are still unsigned:

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Collusion! Putin is probably involved.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:12 pm ]
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Sox should sign Hosmer and move Abreu to DH.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:14 pm ]
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I don't think Holland signs until after the draft. He's not good enough to give up a draft pick for.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:19 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Thirty days until Spring Training ... the following folks are still unsigned:

Image



Collusion! Putin is probably involved.


I was just talking to someone about this very thing. The owners now decide to tank or avoid the luxury tax and the players will still win a 500M collusion suit.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:43 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Sox should sign Hosmer and move Abreu to DH.
He turned down a $147 million 7yr offer from KC. There is no way the Sox would offer him more. Nor should they.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/ka ... 96859.html

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:44 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Sox should sign Hosmer and move Abreu to DH.
He turned down a $147 million 7yr offer from KC. There is no way the Sox would offer him more. Nor should they.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/ka ... 96859.html


For his age and position, that deal would be a steal.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:22 pm ]
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Brewers get OF Christian Yelich for OF Lewis Brinson SS Isan Diaz OF Monte Harrison and RHP Jordan Yamamoto

That’s a HUGE return. Monte is my guy! The Brewers aren’t fucking around. Damn

Author:  '77Cubs [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:46 pm ]
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Overpay??!!

Jon Heyman‏Verified account @JonHeyman

brewers also agree to deal with lorenzo cain, confirmed. 80M for 5 years.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:54 pm ]
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It’s definitely a lot but I think Yelich’s best years are still in front of him. Could be a deal that works out for both teams.

5 yrs for a 32 yr old outfielder?!? Now that’s an overpay!

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:57 pm ]
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Smart of the Brewers to go for it with the Cubs window pretty much closed.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:58 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote:
It’s definitely a lot but I think Yelich’s best years are still in front of him. Could be a deal that works out for both teams.

5 yrs for a 32 yr old outfielder?!? Now that’s an overpay!


The Crew aren't fucking around.

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