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I wonder in today's age if people would have cared about batting average more than HRs and RBIs. Dude led the league in 7 years for batting average, but never got higher than 6hh in MVP voting (other than his first full time year which was 3rd.) And he was stealing 50 bases in the early days too!

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

Didn't Payton win early in his career--the year he had 1800 yards? I can't remember. I can't believe he didn't win more, if the NFL has an MVP award.
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tommy wrote:
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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

Didn't Payton win early in his career--the year he had 1800 yards? I can't remember. I can't believe he didn't win more, if the NFL has an MVP award.



I think he was MVP in '77, wasn't he?

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tommy wrote:
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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

Didn't Payton win early in his career--the year he had 1800 yards? I can't remember. I can't believe he didn't win more, if the NFL has an MVP award.





I think he was MVP in '77, wasn't he?


Yes.

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So what have we learned so far? Tony Gwynn never finished higher than 6th in MVP voting except when he finished 3rd & Walter Payton was the greatest player to never win an MVP except for the time he won one.

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Why didn't Gwynn win one? Because his consistent singles and doubles production didn't put butts in seats. And no one cared about late games in San Diego.

And his best year was 94.

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newper wrote:
I wonder in today's age if people would have cared about batting average more than HRs and RBIs. Dude led the league in 7 years for batting average, but never got higher than 6hh in MVP voting (other than his first full time year which was 3rd.) And he was stealing 50 bases in the early days too!



Loved the dude, best hitter in my lifetime. If he was in a major market he'd have won a couple.

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.


John Elway
Mike Bossy
Elgin Baylor/Jerry West
Al Kaline/Kirby Puckett

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.


John Elway
Mike Bossy
Elgin Baylor/Jerry West
Al Kaline/Kirby Puckett

Elway is the most overrated athlete ever

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So what have we learned so far? Tony Gwynn never finished higher than 6th in MVP voting except when he finished 3rd & Walter Payton was the greatest player to never win an MVP except for the time he won one.

I love this place. :drunken:


:lol:

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So what have we learned so far? Tony Gwynn never finished higher than 6th in MVP voting except when he finished 3rd & Walter Payton was the greatest player to never win an MVP except for the time he won one.

I love this place. :drunken:

:lol:

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.


Eric Dickerson/Tony Dorsett

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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

Eric Dickerson/Tony Dorsett

Did Dickerson change his name to Dorsett for religous reasons like Kareem?

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tommy wrote:
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Spawns another good question. Best player to never win an MVP? Obviously a lot of defensive players in the NFL to be considered. Walter Payton would be first of mind for me.

Didn't Payton win early in his career--the year he had 1800 yards? I can't remember. I can't believe he didn't win more, if the NFL has an MVP award.



I think he was MVP in '77, wasn't he?

Yeah. Sealed it after his 275 against Minnesota I believe.

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