100. Barry Larkin
99. Phil Niekro
98. Jim Thome
97. Adrian Beltre
96. Charlie Gehringer
95. Duke Snider
94. Bryce Harper
93. John Smoltz
92. Roy Halladay
91. Ryne Sandberg
90. Ivan Rodriguez
89. Shoeless Joe Jackson
88. Willie Stargell
87. Carlton Fisk
86. Roberto Alomar
85. Jim Palmer
84. Paul Molitor
83. Roy Campanella
82. Eddie Collins
81. Mike Piazza
80. Robin Yount
79. Hank Greenberg
78. Chipper Jones
77. Vladimir Guerrero
76. Cap Anson
75. Rod Carew
74. Juan Marichal
73. Willie McCovey
72. Justin Verlander
71. Al Kaline
70. Harmon Killebrew
69. Ozzie Smith
68. Manny Ramirez
67. Brooks Robinson
66. Cal Ripken Jr.
65. Max Scherzer
64. Eddie Mathews
63. David Ortiz
62. Mel Ott
61. Carl Yastrzemski
60. Whitey Ford
59. Miguel Cabrera
58. Steve Carlton
57. Pete Alexander
56. Dave Winfield
55. Reggie Jackson
54. Lefty Grove
53. Oscar Charleston
52. Clayton Kershaw
51. Ernie Banks
50. Bob Feller
49. Frank Thomas
48. Nap Lajoie
47. Warren Spahn
46. Ichiro Suzuki
45. Wade Boggs
44. Tony Gwynn
43. George Brett
42. Nolan Ryan
41. Satchel Paige
40. Jimmie Foxx
39. Yogi Berra
38. Jackie Robinson
37. Joe Morgan
36. Tris Speaker
35. Josh Gibson
34. Pete Rose
33. Bob Gibson
32. Sandy Koufax
31. Mariano Rivera
30. Albert Pujols
29. Johnny Bench
28. Derek Jeter
27. Roberto Clemente
26. Alex Rodriguez
25. Christy Mathewson
24. Randy Johnson
23. Rickey Henderson
22. Tom Seaver
21. Cy Young
20. Rogers Hornsby
19. Frank Robinson
18. Mike Schmidt
17. Roger Clemens
16. Joe DiMaggio
15. Mike Trout
14. Greg Maddux
13. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. Honus Wagner
11. Pedro Martinez
10. Stan Musial
9. Walter Johnson
8. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
6. Lou Gehrig
5. Ted Williams
4. Ty Cobb
3. Hank Aaron
2. Willie Mays
1. Babe Ruth

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/331 ... nos-100-51

Surprised they didn't put Ohtani at #1

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Pedro at #11?

No.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Interesting how Dave Winfield and Reggie Jackson are right next to each other. I remember this famous quote from Steinbrenner: "I let Mr. October get away, and I got Mr. May, Dave Winfield. He gets his numbers when it doesn't count."

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Yeah, he shouldn't be that much higher than Scherzer.

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Rickey Henderson is too low as well.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Jeter at 28. What farce.

Great player don't get me wrong, but on no planet can you say that Jeter was better than Frank Thomas, Tris Speaker, Ichiro, Bob Feller. I'm not sure he was better than Ryne or Cal Jr.

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So many old timers on that list I wish I could have seen play.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

considering he's only 17th among pitchers for JORR's preferred metric WAR and the ESPN list combines position players and pitchers, Pedro's 11th while Bob Gibson down at 33 when they had nearly identical WAR (Pedro pitched 18 seasons to Gibson's 17):

Top 100 pitchers by WAR all time

Top 100 position players by WAR

Trout at 15 seems too high for a guy who most people couldn't pick out of a lineup.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU

Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Was about to post the same thing. The only argument against bonds at #1 is steroids but that’d invite a discussion of all the competitive issues with every other era.

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First of all, it's ridiculous to have pitchers and position players in the same list.

Barry Bonds should be 2nd on the list.
Albert Pujols at 30 is too generous.
Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it.

This list sucks.

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There is a lot to pick apart for sure.

I'll say this though. Its hard not to argue with the players in the top ten. Maybe they could be ranked differently, but I would be hard pressed to replace any of these guys in the top ten;

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It's a damn shame that they can't end a lockout and the biggest news of the game is yet another list.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

They’re exhausted after having met once for 30 minutes in the past two months.

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i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time.

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'Your AT&T Universal Card has arrived'? Oh God, Kick-fucking-ass, I got a Master Card! I don't believe it, man. Life is kinda cool sometimes.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ba01.shtml

Bold items indicate best in MLB...

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Because he is a 20.4 WAR player.

As a pitcher.

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Because he accomplished things that no one will come close to accomplishing. Everyone else is playing for that 2nd spot behind him.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU

Sosa isn't on the list. That's nuts.

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At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro.

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Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.

This is the reason why I always think Hank Aaron is ranked too high on these list. Peak Hank Aaron isn't a top 5 player. Peak Pedro was a top 5 pitcher

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU

vlad 77? 77? he's gotta be better than wade boggs (~45) because boggs is just a .330 career average and vlad is .318 with all kinds of power and danger that boggs never had. you can argue that vlad was generally shit in the playoffs but what kind of a dent did wade fucking boggs make in the playoffs? maybe when he was a devil ray?

jeter #26 vlad #77? #comeonson. this is a popularity contest.

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don't forget he was caught cheating...

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there should be a steroids hall of fame with a big statue of barry bonds at the entrance. these guys risked their future to entertain us with crazy #s.... that's worthy of a hall of fame.

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This is just wrong. Hank was a great five tool player. And wildly underappreciated because he wasn't a self promoter playing in the Jim Crow South.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Great as a pitcher, great hitter, changed the way baseball was played after the Black Sox scandal. Most well-known athlete before Ali.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Di Maggio in at #10 over Musial.

Also, the name of this list should be changed from Top MLB to Top Baseball players since Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston never played in the MLB.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Career / Body of work matters. Pedro was all that for a limited number of seasons, but I think this list pertains to career numbers.

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