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 Post subject: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:14 pm 
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If Baines got in, there's no reason to keep McGriff out. Also, the career .886 OPS and the 493 career homeruns look much better knowing that he put those numbers up without chemical enhancement.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-and-don ... d-mcgriff/


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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:16 pm 
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Cubbie legend. I once caught a foul ball from McGriff.

Good guy, hits weak foul balls to children. Definite HoG material.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:28 pm 
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Similar (though inferior) stats to Sheffield. Both played for a lot of teams and aren't really associated with one. My guess is McGriff will go in as a Brave.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:55 am 
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Warren Newson wrote:
If Baines got in, there's no reason to keep McGriff out. Also, the career .886 OPS and the 493 career homeruns look much better knowing that he put those numbers up without chemical enhancement.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-and-don ... d-mcgriff/



That bolded part was likely the driving force behind his induction.

The thing is though, McGriff is a first baseman. His numbers at the position aren't really HoF numbers. I get the desire to honor him because his accomplishments were unfairly buried by guys like Palmiero. But where next? Is Will Clark a Hall of Famer? Jack Clark?

At least Baines was an elite rightfielder for a few years prior to getting injured.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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Fred McGriff will join Harold Baines in the Hall of Holy Shit They Let Anyone In Now


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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:18 am 
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Warren Newson wrote:
If Baines got in, there's no reason to keep McGriff out. Also, the career .886 OPS and the 493 career homeruns look much better knowing that he put those numbers up without chemical enhancement.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-and-don ... d-mcgriff/

That comment section is egregiously bad, especially when they talk politics. Mercy!

Personally, I'd put the guy in. He had his best seasons right before the steroid era kicked in. He also played in some backwaters (Toronto, San Diego, Cub Park), so he never got as much publicity as he might have.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:30 am 
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Willie Stargell needs to go in if youre putting McGriff in .

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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Willie Stargell needs to go in if youre putting McGriff in .



I think he is in, isn't he? He's obviously better than McGriff.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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badrogue17 wrote:
Willie Stargell needs to go in if youre putting McGriff in .

:lol: what?

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:56 am 
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RFDC wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Willie Stargell needs to go in if youre putting McGriff in .

:lol: what?

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Thought he wasnt . Good. Must be my why isnt Dave Parker in confusion.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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Let's talk about Willie Mays and how we can get him in the HOF


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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Similar (though inferior) stats to Sheffield. Both played for a lot of teams and aren't really associated with one. My guess is McGriff will go in as a Brave.


Sheffield was a juicer

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:27 pm 
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As much as it pains me, I’ve completely lost interest in the Hall.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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As much as it pains me, I’ve completely lost interest in the Hall.

Fred McGriff is in but not Rose, Bonds, or Clemens. That's pretty interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
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RFDC wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Willie Stargell needs to go in if youre putting McGriff in .

:lol: what?

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Mm...good man...

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 Post subject: Re: The Crime Dog HOF
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:00 pm 
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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
If Baines got in, there's no reason to keep McGriff out. Also, the career .886 OPS and the 493 career homeruns look much better knowing that he put those numbers up without chemical enhancement.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-and-don ... d-mcgriff/

That comment section is egregiously bad, especially when they talk politics. Mercy!

Personally, I'd put the guy in. He had his best seasons right before the steroid era kicked in. He also played in some backwaters (Toronto, San Diego, Cub Park), so he never got as much publicity as he might have.


I didn’t even realize there was a comments section until you pointed it out. This place is kind of like a comments section on steroids, so I never feel the need to search for those things any longer.

McGriff is one of a large number of inductees for whom I would not have voted, but who are close enough to the HOF standard, that I can't really get upset.


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