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Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 23, 2023 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Nas wrote:
A little commonsense wouldn't hurt.
That went out the window a long time ago.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2023 10:11 am ]
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Nas wrote:
A little commonsense wouldn't hurt.


My buddy sent me this meme on Facebook

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Author:  One Post [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Aren't there really three plausible explanations for this:

1. Guy had a legitimate mispronunciation/blending of words to make it sound offensive.
2. Guy uses the word so much on the regular in professional settings that it just came out like any other word.
3. Guy woke up that morning and decided that would be the day he tried to slip that word into a live broadcast.

If it was #2 above I'd have to assume that he would have been fired a long time ago for something said not on the air.

Now we're down to #1 and #3. I guess the A's decided that #3 was the answer, which seems a bit hard to explain. This is different than the Brenneman thing where Brenneman was talking off air and the hot mic got him. Kuiper knew he was broadcasting.
Author:  KDdidit [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:40 am ]
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It's probably the A's are cheap, but still, when your whole job is, ya know, talking, going hard R for whatever reason is a problem
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:42 am ]
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Brenneman was intentionally using a slur and a producer wanted to fuck him. This guy was praising the Negro League Museum and made a mistake that neither he or his partner recognized. This is also a guy who has worked for this shitty organization for a very long time. They know what type of man he is. I'm fairly confident they know he isn't some racist. Firing him for fucking up a word is ridiculous.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:46 am ]
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KDdidit wrote:
but still, when your whole job is, ya know, talking
There are sportscasters who have screwed up actual plays, scores, or names MANY times before. We've had teachers say worse. Politicians have said worse. Jobs were not lost in all instances. Nobody is perfect. Do you really think his job and career should be over with because he seemingly accidentally mis-spoke? Hawk Harrelson once said 'Sea Men' on the air. Should he have been fired for that?

Kuiper also said he had been to the Negro Leagues Museum a few times in the past. If it was really #2 in One Post's scenario above, why would he continue to visit that type of place?
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:52 am ]
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KDdidit wrote:
hen your whole job is, ya know, talking, going hard R for whatever reason is a problem

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Author:  Nas [ Tue May 23, 2023 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Frank Coztansa wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
but still, when your whole job is, ya know, talking
There are sportscasters who have screwed up actual plays, scores, or names MANY times before. We've had teachers say worse. Politicians have said worse. Jobs were not lost in all instances. Nobody is perfect. Do you really think his job and career should be over with because he seemingly accidentally mis-spoke? Hawk Harrelson once said 'Sea Men' on the air. Should he have been fired for that?

Kuiper also said he had been to the Negro Leagues Museum a few times in the past. If it was really #2 in One Post's scenario above, why would he continue to visit that type of place?


He was hellbent on saying the word on air after 20 years. You can only hide your racism for so long. Something something subconscious.
Author:  Brick [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
The moral of the story: Don't go to museums. You may be fired for it.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Brick wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't go to museums. You may be fired for it.


You said if apologized everything would be fine.
Author:  Brick [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't go to museums. You may be fired for it.


You said if apologized everything would be fine.

I did not say that. I said he may or may not get fired. How could I give two answers that literally covers 100% of the available outcomes and you still remembered what I said incorrectly?
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:46 pm ]
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man of few opinions wrote:
I guess they were able to read his heart and determined maximum discipline was required. What a world.


Nah. They probably weighed the social and economic backlash they'd experience for keeping him vs the social and economic costs of releasing him and rightly judged the former would far outweigh the latter. I'm not saying they should have released him, but the high social and economic costs of keeping him around just reflect how much has changed culturally over just the last 10-15 years. I don't think he's getting fired in, say, 2012.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't go to museums. You may be fired for it.


You said if apologized everything would be fine.

I did not say that. I said he may or may not get fired. How could I give two answers that literally covers 100% of the available outcomes and you still remembered what I said incorrectly?


So what was the point of apologizing?
Author:  Brick [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:49 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.


I think he would have been better "doubling down". And you shouldn't have to apologize for a simple speech mistake.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue May 23, 2023 1:59 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Firing him for fucking up a word is ridiculous.

“How could they do it, how could they?”
“I don’t know, but they did it. They’ve done it before and they did it tonight and they’ll do it again and when they do it—seems that only children weep.
Author:  Brick [ Tue May 23, 2023 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.


I think he would have been better "doubling down". And you shouldn't have to apologize for a simple speech mistake.

Things would be much worse now for him if he said "I said it and I am not sorry I did it".

The A's overreacted but it's not like he is keeping his job by being defiant about it.
Author:  Nardi [ Tue May 23, 2023 6:28 pm ]
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Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.

And I'll beat the fuck out of you anyway because obviously Sorry doesn't cut it
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Tue May 23, 2023 6:40 pm ]
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Quote:
A person familiar with the investigation told the Associated Press that "the decision was based on a variety of factors, including information uncovered in the internal review." The person spoke on condition of anonymity and didn't divulge specific details because the network had not publicly disclosed the results of the investigation.


I wonder what kind of information was uncovered in the internal review. As previously mentioned, the guy had visited the museum several times...not something an Imperial Wizard would be likely to do.
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue May 23, 2023 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.


I think he would have been better "doubling down". And you shouldn't have to apologize for a simple speech mistake.

Things would be much worse now for him if he said "I said it and I am not sorry I did it".

The A's overreacted but it's not like he is keeping his job by being defiant about it.


I think you made a mistake. You thought you heard something you didn't. Probably due to your internalized racism. You owe Nas and Reader an apology.
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 23, 2023 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.


I think he would have been better "doubling down". And you shouldn't have to apologize for a simple speech mistake.

Things would be much worse now for him if he said "I said it and I am not sorry I did it".

The A's overreacted but it's not like he is keeping his job by being defiant about it.


I think you made a mistake. You thought you heard something you didn't. Probably due to your internalized racism. You owe Nas and Reader an apology.


What do you expect from Kramer? BRick is an honorary Lodge member, so we allow it.
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Wed May 24, 2023 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So what was the point of apologizing?
He made a mistake. If you make a mistake, even if it wasn't intentional, you apologize. If I bump into you on the street while I'm posting on my phone I say sorry.


I think he would have been better "doubling down". And you shouldn't have to apologize for a simple speech mistake.

Things would be much worse now for him if he said "I said it and I am not sorry I did it".

The A's overreacted but it's not like he is keeping his job by being defiant about it.


I think you made a mistake. You thought you heard something you didn't. Probably due to your internalized racism. You owe Nas and Reader an apology.


What do you expect from Kramer? BRick is an honorary Lodge member, so we allow it.


:lol:

Seriously, does anyone really think he was saying that word? It may have sort of sounded like it, but everyone must know that isn't what he said. So firing a guy after twenty years for what you think you heard. It's ridiculous.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed May 24, 2023 7:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glen Kuiper: Freudian slip or slip of the tongue?
Thats what makes the apology even more ridiculous. “I’m sorry you think I said some word”
Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed May 24, 2023 7:53 am ]
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When does his hate crime trial begin?
Author:  Nas [ Wed May 24, 2023 7:57 am ]
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man of few opinions wrote:
When does his hate crime trial begin?


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