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They are amazing. My Cardinal fan friends have nothing but angst over this team and they do nothing but win.


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Is there still a chance Wainwright comes back this season?

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Not no chance according to Adam, but it would be foolish. I could see maybe if Siegriest and Rosenthal went down, but as it is Martinez, as good as he's been; may go to the pen. Matheny will almost certainly go with Lynn-Garcia-Lackey-Wacha. Even in the bullpen, Wainwright would have to build up some semblance of arm strength and I just don't se it happening. Would be a great narrative, though.

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Thanks Apologist. Makes me feel better if the Cubs won't see him.

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Even if Waino has no velocity, I remember him out of the pen in '06

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So what happened to Martinez? Done for season?

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Nvm, found it myself.

UPDATE: According to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak just announced Martinez will miss the remainder of the season with a shoulder strain. Jenifer Langosch of MLB.com writes that no surgery will be needed, but it’s brutal news for the Cardinals.

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Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night??????

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Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night??????


He may, but they said he won't be a starter. They are going to use him in middle relief at most. Losing Martinez might hurt them in the long run, but they still have enough pitching to get them through a five game series. They may change their minds if they make it to the NLCS.

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Piscotty and Bourjos collide in outfield in Pittsburgh in violent collision. Yikes.

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I thought he was dead.

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Piscotty and Bourjos collide in outfield in Pittsburgh in violent collision. Yikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7KXbHizYk

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Was terrible but what dope cam videos this on a tv in a bar for 5 minutes?

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He was moving, and the crowd cheered. The game is still going on.

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Have they updated his status? Last I heard they said he had a head contusion.


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Have they updated his status? Last I heard they said he had a head contusion.

Lucky if just that. He clearly looked like he was knocked out. Bourjos' shaking him and not reacting at all at first was scary, and a reminder it's just a game.

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My sources are far from official, but Waino is texting that he is "okay". Seeing how cautious this regime is regarding injuries, Martinez is being shut down to protect his career; I'd be surprised to see Piscotty again this year.

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Was terrible but what dope cam videos this on a tv in a bar for 5 minutes?

Here's some official MLB video, you asshole.

http://m.cardinals.mlb.com/stl/video/topic/8877482/v507114883/stlpit-piscotty-injured-on-bourjos-diving-catch

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Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night??????


He may, but they said he won't be a starter. They are going to use him in middle relief at most. Losing Martinez might hurt them in the long run, but they still have enough pitching to get them through a five game series. They may change their minds if they make it to the NLCS.



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Is Yadi a Hall of Famer?

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I would say Yadi in. He and Posey are in.

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I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in.
In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows?

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I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in.
In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows?


I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again?

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I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in.
In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows?


I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again?

The catcher and huge part of the winning on two very different WS teams (07-11) is a big part of his case

Also 7 time all star, 6 time gold glover

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I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in.
In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows?


I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again?

The catcher and huge part of the winning on two very different WS teams (07-11) is a big part of his case

Also 7 time all star, 6 time gold glover

He goes in


I just can't see it. Freehan made 11 All-Star teams and was in the top three in the MVP voting a couple times. He won four or five Gold Gloves too. If he's not in, I can't see Molina going in.

And Sundberg was like a Johnny Bench behind the plate. His offense is a little less, and he's no Hall of Famer, but that's the class I'd put Molina in.

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