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Fucking Boggs. Send him down and don't call him back up.

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Boggs was just sent to AAA. What a dick.

I don't put that one on Matheny, I put it on Mozeliak.

Get your best 12-13 pitchers on the MLB staff. Marte was just adding insult to injury.

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I will give you a real sports thought in exchange for a Dealbreaker.

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After his fourth appearance without allowing an ER, Shelby Miller is second in NL (third in ML) with a 1.82 ERA.

ROY? no, how about CY :wink:

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Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, and Keith Law all have Cardinal taking a SS at 19. BA & Law predicting Tim Anderson. BP predicting J.P. Crawford.

At 28, Callis has the Cardinals taking Gonzaga lefty Marco Gonzales, a name that has been tied to the Cardinals for the past few weeks.

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Derrick Goold wrote:

They have four picks in the top 100 - including Nos. 57 and 93. The Cardinals have 11 picks in the first 10 rounds and a commissioner-assigned bonus cap of $6.9 million dollars. That is down from last year's cap of $9.1 million because the Cardinals have three fewer picks in the top 10 rounds. The Cardinals spent beyond their cap last year and had to pay a penalty of about $225,000 as a result. The team does not mind eclipsing the cap by less than 5 percent.

Any more and the penalty is the loss of a draft pick in 2014.

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Round1, Pick 19: Marco Gonzales, LHP (@MarcoGonzales_)

Gonzaga University
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Baseball America wrote:
He doesn't have a high ceiling, but at 6-foot-1 and 185 pounds he's polished and is a good athlete who has played both ways for the Bulldogs. His fastball sits in the 88-91 mph range. It can get flat at times, but he paints the corners with above-average command. But he's getting drafted for his changeup, the best in this year's class. It's a deceptive offering with fade and scouts have no problem grading it as a 70 pitch on the 20-80 scale. He also mixes in an average curveball and cutter. Scouts love Gonzales' makeup and he could move quickly through the minor leagues. With his frame, stuff and athleticism he has earned comparisons to Jason Vargas.



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Gonzales lacks the big fastball usually coveted by front-office decision-makers tabbing first-round targets, but the Gonzaga ace more than makes up for merely average velo by wielding the pitch with above-average command and advanced feel. He moves the heater around the quadrants and works particularly well down in the zone and inside to righties, setting up his bread and butter—a true plus-plus change-up with hard, late tumble.




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Gonzales may be the best pitchability arm in this year’s draft. There isn’t really any projection remaining with his body, but he’s close to a finished product and should fly through the minor leagues. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s pitching in the majors next season.




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Gonzales is a highly polished command-and-control lefty with excellent secondary stuff, great athleticism, and a barely-average fastball. He's mostly 89-90 but will work across the 87-91 range, locating it extremely well, especially down in the zone -- he hadn't allowed a homer all year as of April 28. His changeup is plus, one of the best in this draft, at 77-79, fooling hitters more on arm speed than on action, and his curveball is average to a tick above at 75-77 with varying angles.




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A classic college-trained finesse lefty, Gonzales doesn't have ace upside but he also has a high floor thanks to outstanding command of his 88-91 MPH heater, a solid breaking ball, and a superb change-up. His stats were quite good with a 2.80 ERA and a 96/25 K/BB in 106 innings with 102 hits allowed. This strikes me as a slight overdraft since there were higher-upside guys available, but the Cardinals know pitching and Gonzales won't need a great deal of time in the minors. He'd look interesting in the rotation with the hard-throwers the Cardinals have collected.

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Round 1, Pick 28: Rob Kaminsky, LHP (@Kaminsky21)

St. Joseph Regional School (NJ)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190 lbs

Kaminsky is committed to North Carolina, but likely the Cardinals believe they can buy him out of that committment.

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Kaminsky isn’t tall at 6 feet and 190 pounds, but he’s a bulldog on the mound with some of the best present stuff in this year’s high school class. He repeats his athletic delivery well, features a fastball that sits in the 88-90 mph range and tops out at 93. Kaminsky throws his fastball to both sides of the plate and loves to challenge hitters inside. In addition to his fastball, Kaminsky mixes in a sharp, 76-79 mph hammer curveball and a solid 80-83 mph changeup.




Keith Law had him rated 45th overall, and sees him as a #4 starter with the possibility to move up in projection because of his excellent command.

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Kaminsky, a North Carolina commit, already sits comfortably in the low 90s with a solid breaking ball and good feel for pitching, although his lack of size gives him little projection for more velocity.



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Kaminsky lit the showcase scene on fire this summer, racking up strikeouts with an advanced repertoire from the left side. His fastball sits in the low 90s and can reach 94, but the exciting part is his curveball, which has legitimate plus-plus potential. He throws the hammer in the upper 70s and low 80s and generates excellent bite with 11-to-5 action. The pitch was unhittable this summer, and Kaminsky also has some feel for a change-up.


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Map for tonights 6:15 CDT FOX game

red: angels-red sox
blue: cards-reds
green: padres-rockies
yellow: astros-royals
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6 run 10th to take 2 of 3 from the Red. a 4 game lead feels much better than a 2 game lead. The Red get the Cub next, but we get the Met and Fish :wink:


Before Holliday's GS, as soon as the jumbotron flashed "MLB Debut" and i saw a picture of a ginger, I knew the game would soon be over.


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6 run 10th to take 2 of 3 from the Red. a 4 game lead feels much better than a 2 game lead. The Red get the Cub next, but we get the Met and Fish :wink:


Before Holliday's GS, as soon as the jumbotron flashed "MLB Debut" and i saw a picture of a ginger, I knew the game would soon be over.


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A 7-run 10th, fitness friend. That GS was a SHOT. 465 feet, I think I heard. I was at Hangover 3, so at least I got to see the last few innings. It's all clicking right now, but part of me keeps waiting for the bottom to drop out with the heavy reliance on rookie pitching.

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Westbrook should be back soon... and dare I say... Carpenter is being said to be feeling ok in his side sessions.

Have you seen Rosenthal at all? The high heater is well chronicled, but that change is absolutely filthy.
It's basically impossible to hit a guy that can throw this combo of pitches

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Westbrook should be back soon... and dare I say... Carpenter is being said to be feeling ok in his side sessions.

Have you seen Rosenthal at all? The high heater is well chronicled, but that change is absolutely filthy.
It's basically impossible to hit a guy that can throw this combo of pitches

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This is true. I haven't seen enough of Rosenthal. Just a couple appearances. Martinez was sent down to become a starter. Is that for 2013 or 2014?

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I think they just want to continue to develop him as a starter, and stretch him out for this year, if: Wacha shits the bed, or someone else gets hurt.

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It appears Kevin Seigrist has broken the Fangraphs computers.

After facing 12 Major League batters, in which he has struck out eight (8), surrendered one (1) hit, and issued one (1) intentional walk, has a K/9 of 21.6 and a FIP of -0.83.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8180&position=P

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#Cardinals sign 1st-rder Marco Gonzales for $1.85 mil. Gonzaga LHP might be most polished arm in #mlbdraft, definitely has best changeup.

— Jim Callis (@jimcallisBA) June 11, 2013


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Harvey vs. Wainwright

It's going to be a low productivity day

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/baseball/158656/1/new-york-mets-vs-st.louis-cardinals-live-stream-online.html

hmm... streams glitchy. this one works, sort of

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After 32 innings to the tune of 5.55 ERA, Tyler Lyons has been returned to Memphis. Matheny has stated that when a 5th starter is needed, Joe Kelly will get the call. He will be the 10th starter employed on the campaign.

Carpenter*, Wainwright, Garcia*, Miller, Lynn, Westbrook, Gast*, Lyons#, Wacha#, Kelly.

current starters in Bold

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Cardinal at 1st base since 2011 compared to Albert Pujols

The St. Louis Cardinals have had multiple players play first base since 2011’s season ended. How have they done compared to Albert Pujols?

Allen Craig
197 games, 843 PAs, .311/.356/.505 – 120 runs, 31 homers, 155 RBI
.194 ISO, 369 wOBA, 137 wRC+, 4.0 fWAR, 2.85 fWAR/600 PAs

Matt Adams
71 games, 196 PAs, .283/.327/.484 – 21 runs, 8 homers, 33 RBI
.201 ISO, .350 wOBA, 125 wRC+, 0.5 fWAR, 1.53 fWAR/600 PAs

Lance Berkman
96 games, 365 PAs, .262/.367/.406 – 38 runs, 8 homers, 41 RBI
.144 ISO, .338 wOBA, 109 wRC+, 0.5 fWAR, 0.82 fWAR/600 PAs

Albert Pujols
234 games, 1,032 PAs, .273/.336/.486 – 126 runs, 43 homers, 154 RBI
.213 ISO, .345 wOBA, 122 wRC+, 3.7 fWAR, 2.15 fWAR/600 PAs

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Harvey vs. Wainwright

It's going to be a low productivity day

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/baseball/158656/1/new-york-mets-vs-st.louis-cardinals-live-stream-online.html

hmm... streams glitchy. this one works, sort of

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/baseball/158 ... nline.html

you realize I have MLB TV right?

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Cardinals' Chris Carpenter makes first rehab start
By Dayn Perry | Baseball Writer


Veteran Cardinals right-hander Chris Carpenter, who's missed the entire 2013 season to date because of back and shoulder problems, made a minor-league rehab start for Double-A Springfield on Monday.

Carpenter allowed three runs, two of which were earned, and struck out five against Double-A Arkansas. Of his 54 pitches, 38 went for strikes. While the pitching line wasn't optimal, Carpenter's velocity certainly was. As Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports, Carpenter, according to a team official in attendance, touched 94 on the radar gun.

As Goold notes, Carpenter, per MLB rules regarding minor-league rehab assignments, will have 30 days until the Cardinals must either place him on the active roster or return him to the disabled list.

Carpenter, age 38, has a career record of 144-94 across parts of 15 major-league seasons. Over that span, he's pitched to a 3.76 ERA (116 ERA+).

Should Carpenter avoid a setback and make it back to the majors, then the Cardinals might deploy him as a reliever.

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Anything they get out of him is gravy.

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First of all. Christ Carpenter can suck a cock. I never need to see him pitch again.

Now to the real topic. There is no reason in hell that the Cardinals should get a competitive balance draft pick.

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First of all. Christ Carpenter can suck a cock. I never need to see him pitch again.

Now to the real topic. There is no reason in hell that the Cardinals should get a competitive balance draft pick.

why would they be getting one of those?

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First of all. Christ Carpenter can suck a cock. I never need to see him pitch again.

Now to the real topic. There is no reason in hell that the Cardinals should get a competitive balance draft pick.

why would they be getting one of those?


Its detailed in another thread Keyser created but somehow they qualify as being one of the 10 smallest market/lowest revenue teams. Obviously their track record shows they are not at a competitive disadvantage yet somehow get the 71st pick next year as a prize.

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It is tied to market size and TV revenue among other things. The STL franchise should be punished for using their resources wisely? Last I checked, the St Louis area is one of the smallest media markets in the nation.

I'm not claiming that it is a perfect system, hell I don't even really understand it. Ask Selig.

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And that's not even mentioning the Cardinals, who at $239M made as much as the Angels last season. Competitive balance? Ha.
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It is tied to market size and TV revenue among other things. The STL franchise should be punished for using their resources wisely? Last I checked, the St Louis area is one of the smallest media markets in the nation.

I'm not claiming that it is a perfect system, hell I don't even really understand it. Ask Selig.


Punished?? They are getting an extra draft pick out of this.

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It is tied to market size and TV revenue among other things. The STL franchise should be punished for using their resources wisely? Last I checked, the St Louis area is one of the smallest media markets in the nation.

I'm not claiming that it is a perfect system, hell I don't even really understand it. Ask Selig.


But there's a lot of history that has caused the Cardinals' market to be much greater than just the greater St. Louis area. For many, many years they were the Southernmost and Westernmost franchise. Baseball, being a sport that is handed down from generation to generation, one can still find plenty of Cardinals fans in places like Oklahoma, Mississippi, Texas, and Georgia.

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boo hoo. the poor Cubs have to battle that big juggernaut from St. Louis. no fair!

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