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| Author: | Apologist [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
They are amazing. My Cardinal fan friends have nothing but angst over this team and they do nothing but win. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
#theyaregood |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Is there still a chance Wainwright comes back this season? |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Not no chance according to Adam, but it would be foolish. I could see maybe if Siegriest and Rosenthal went down, but as it is Martinez, as good as he's been; may go to the pen. Matheny will almost certainly go with Lynn-Garcia-Lackey-Wacha. Even in the bullpen, Wainwright would have to build up some semblance of arm strength and I just don't se it happening. Would be a great narrative, though. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Thanks Apologist. Makes me feel better if the Cubs won't see him. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
 Even if Waino has no velocity, I remember him out of the pen in '06 |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
So what happened to Martinez? Done for season? |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Nvm, found it myself. UPDATE: According to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak just announced Martinez will miss the remainder of the season with a shoulder strain. Jenifer Langosch of MLB.com writes that no surgery will be needed, but it’s brutal news for the Cardinals. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night?????? |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
bigfan wrote: Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night?????? He may, but they said he won't be a starter. They are going to use him in middle relief at most. Losing Martinez might hurt them in the long run, but they still have enough pitching to get them through a five game series. They may change their minds if they make it to the NLCS. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Piscotty and Bourjos collide in outfield in Pittsburgh in violent collision. Yikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7KXbHizYk |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
I thought he was dead. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Apologist wrote: Piscotty and Bourjos collide in outfield in Pittsburgh in violent collision. Yikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7KXbHizYk Yikes. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Was terrible but what dope cam videos this on a tv in a bar for 5 minutes? |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
He was moving, and the crowd cheered. The game is still going on. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Have they updated his status? Last I heard they said he had a head contusion. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Keyser Soze wrote: Have they updated his status? Last I heard they said he had a head contusion. Lucky if just that. He clearly looked like he was knocked out. Bourjos' shaking him and not reacting at all at first was scary, and a reminder it's just a game. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
The blood pouring from his mouth freaked me out. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
My sources are far from official, but Waino is texting that he is "okay". Seeing how cautious this regime is regarding injuries, Martinez is being shut down to protect his career; I'd be surprised to see Piscotty again this year. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
pittmike wrote: Was terrible but what dope cam videos this on a tv in a bar for 5 minutes? Here's some official MLB video, you asshole. http://m.cardinals.mlb.com/stl/video/topic/8877482/v507114883/stlpit-piscotty-injured-on-bourjos-diving-catch |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: bigfan wrote: Did I hear Wainright is going to throw Sunday night?????? He may, but they said he won't be a starter. They are going to use him in middle relief at most. Losing Martinez might hurt them in the long run, but they still have enough pitching to get them through a five game series. They may change their minds if they make it to the NLCS. Derrick Goold ✔ @dgoold If Wainwright reports to ballpark tomorrow with no issues after today's exertion he expects to be cleared for game. Could see him by Wed. 3:33 PM - 28 Sep 2015 |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Is Yadi a Hall of Famer? http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2 ... -cardinals |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
I would say Yadi in. He and Posey are in. |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
RFDC wrote: I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in. In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows? |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
http://www.wsj.com/articles/its-in-the- ... ding_now_2 |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Apologist wrote: RFDC wrote: I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in. In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows? I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Apologist wrote: RFDC wrote: I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in. In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows? I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again? The catcher and huge part of the winning on two very different WS teams (07-11) is a big part of his case Also 7 time all star, 6 time gold glover He goes in |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Saint Louis Cardinals |
rogers park bryan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Apologist wrote: RFDC wrote: I feel like he could be, but I'm a "Let everyone in" guy. If they win another WS in his tenure, I think that would help his case greatly. He spent the first half of his career as a guy who couldn't hit, I would not be upset if he didn't get in. In ten years or whenever he is eligible, the voter population will probably have changed a lot. Perhaps catcher defense will be more conventionally understood, or some advanced metrics will prop up his framing and pitch-calling prowess. I never thought they would have given Felix Hernandez the CY a few years ago, so who knows? I can't really see how. He has the same numbers as Pierzynski and less of them. I realize he's considered a superior backstop, but I don't think that gets him in. I couldn't say he's better than a guy like Jim Sundberg or Bill Freehan. Those aren't Hall of Famers. But we're in an odd time. Will a starting pitcher ever get in again? The catcher and huge part of the winning on two very different WS teams (07-11) is a big part of his case Also 7 time all star, 6 time gold glover He goes in I just can't see it. Freehan made 11 All-Star teams and was in the top three in the MVP voting a couple times. He won four or five Gold Gloves too. If he's not in, I can't see Molina going in. And Sundberg was like a Johnny Bench behind the plate. His offense is a little less, and he's no Hall of Famer, but that's the class I'd put Molina in. |
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