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if you're an old-line media outlet, or even a new one, you're queueing up to hire someone from this fallout and the ensuing ex-gawker media diaspora. if you're a company trying to make money on the web slanging content, you want some of this gawker DNA in your company. whatever else they might have been, might have done, Gawker somehow made bank pushing content:

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Rich kids from the Northeast will land on their feet somehow. They always do.

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Rich kids from the Northeast will land on their feet somehow. They always do.

Denton may end up on his knees.

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I hope someone good buys deadspin. Like Bill Simmons or Fox.

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She is the worst...

http://deadspin.com/ashley-feinberg-is-gawker-medias-thirstiest-blogger-1785149762

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did anyone actually read that? Is there a single normal non-douchebag that works for gawker media? The amount of arrogance these bloggers exude is fascinating to me


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I got halfway through then had a nose bleed from the overwhelming smarm factor.

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That is why I'm not crying for Gawker about the evil billionaire destroying them.

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in the wake of the story that CH quoted/pasted a bit upthread, i shudder to realize that SOME ppl are going out on a limb to claim that this hogan vs gawker lawsuit/settlement/shitshow is actually some kind of "attack on free speech" or maybe even "freedom of the press" because i guess some in the media (i actually saw those swell "taiwanese animators" on youtube claim this) want to say that going after gawker here in the hootie hogan case = a crushing blow towards the future of free speech via a "free" press.

seriously, how did we end up with these [wonderful people paragon to all that's good, decent, and honest/hard-working/pulling-yourself-up-from-your-bootstraps] supposedly representing some last bastion of free speech/press in the world? i don't buy the argument that gawker specifically in this hootie hogan case is truly "fighting for our freedom" cuz they basically wanna be able to post str8up sextapes on their sites and be like "nyah nyah nyah maybe next time you shouldn't get taped fucking your friend's wife!" in lieu of people being like "what the fuck gawker you're actually posting a "stolen" sex tape here like it's important news worth fighting for philosophically"

AJ Daulerio in a deposition for the hootie hogan lawsuit wrote:
Q. Well, can you imagine a situation where a celebrity sex tape would not be newsworthy?

A. If they were a child.

Q. Under what age?

A. Four


obviously an attempt at levity/humor in the wake of a grilling, but still kinda representative of the kind of mindset/mentality they have over there when discussing the definition of "news" -- i just can't believe that these people are technically fighting for my freedom, you know? they just wanna get clicks/views/eyeballs so they can get $$$PAID$$$ cuz every business/company is only beholden to one thing: profits (as well it should be? </abovemypaygrade>)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/peter-thiel-the-online-privacy-debate-wont-end-with-gawker.html?smid=tw-share

Thiel sums it all up perfectly here. Gawker kept on gambling and lost when someone who was finally bigger and stronger than them came around.

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It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.

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It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.
No, it isn't troubling at all.

Other examples may be troubling. This one isn't.

If anything, this is an example of a well monied and lawyered up organization(Gawker) not being able to legally maneuver themselves out of it.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.
No, it isn't troubling at all.

Other examples may be troubling. This one isn't.

If anything, this is an example of a well monied and lawyered up organization(Gawker) not being able to legally maneuver themselves out of it.


The only way they were able to be shutdown is because a billionaire said so. If you don't think that's troubling, well then I think you are failing to see how interconnected all of this is.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.
No, it isn't troubling at all.

Other examples may be troubling. This one isn't.

If anything, this is an example of a well monied and lawyered up organization(Gawker) not being able to legally maneuver themselves out of it.


The only way they were able to be shutdown is because a billionaire said so. If you don't think that's troubling, well then I think you are failing to see how interconnected all of this is.


Why is a rag getting shut down troubling?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.
No, it isn't troubling at all.

Other examples may be troubling. This one isn't.

If anything, this is an example of a well monied and lawyered up organization(Gawker) not being able to legally maneuver themselves out of it.


The only way they were able to be shutdown is because a billionaire said so. If you don't think that's troubling, well then I think you are failing to see how interconnected all of this is.


Why is a rag getting shut down troubling?

The troubling thing is that a billionaire decided he had a grudge against a media outlet and just sued them into oblivion.

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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.

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City of Fools wrote:
he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.


I think the more fucked up thing is that there are many people who aren't billionaires or don't have the backing of billionaires who had legitimate reasons to sue Gawker but lacked the resources to bump heads with them. I guess Gawker should have stuck to fucking with poor people.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.


I think the more fucked up thing is that there are many people who aren't billionaires or don't have the backing of billionaires who had legitimate reasons to sue Gawker but lacked the resources to bump heads with them. I guess Gawker should have stuck to fucking with poor people.

That's fair enough. Fucking with poor people usually works out better for the people doing the fucking.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
It's still troubling no matter how you look at it. Gawker is not sympathetic, but this is happening everywhere. See Sheldon Adelson and the Las Vegas papers.
No, it isn't troubling at all.

Other examples may be troubling. This one isn't.

If anything, this is an example of a well monied and lawyered up organization(Gawker) not being able to legally maneuver themselves out of it.


The only way they were able to be shutdown is because a billionaire said so. If you don't think that's troubling, well then I think you are failing to see how interconnected all of this is.
Exactly. Gawker was a rich lawyered up company that was doing this to others. A bigger guy came along and stopped them. There is nothing to be concerned about here.

A group with a lot of money was rightfully found accountable by a group with more money.

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Phil McCracken wrote:
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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.
As long as the suit is valid, and this clearly was, then siding with a billionaire isn't bad.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.


I think the more fucked up thing is that there are many people who aren't billionaires or don't have the backing of billionaires who had legitimate reasons to sue Gawker but lacked the resources to bump heads with them. I guess Gawker should have stuck to fucking with poor people.
I'm sure those people are smiling today too.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.
As long as the suit is valid, and this clearly was, then siding with a billionaire isn't bad.

Going to have to agree to disagree there. No good billionaires in my world. Eat the rich ya dig.

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Gawkers not going anywhere. The journalism itself will go on, the bad actors like Denton and that AJ prick are the ones who were most hurt by the lawsuit. Peter Thiel is one of the worst people on the planet, but I think the "this is very troubling" sentiment is overblown.

The Las Vegas paper story isn't a good analogy. That's 10x worse and probably shouldn't even be legal.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
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he didn't sue them over nothing. You're forgetting that. They left themselves in a dumb position.

I am not forgetting that. I don't think Gawker is some bastion of great journalistic intent, but be careful what you wish for siding with a billionaire that wants to silence speech he doesn't like.


I think the more fucked up thing is that there are many people who aren't billionaires or don't have the backing of billionaires who had legitimate reasons to sue Gawker but lacked the resources to bump heads with them. I guess Gawker should have stuck to fucking with poor people.


Yep. It was not the girl's tape that brought them down. It took someone with resources. The rest of us are fair game.

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Gawkers not going anywhere. The journalism itself will go on, the bad actors like Denton and that AJ prick are the ones who were most hurt by the lawsuit. Peter Thiel is one of the worst people on the planet, but I think the "this is very troubling" sentiment is overblown.

The Las Vegas paper story isn't a good analogy. That's 10x worse and probably shouldn't even be legal.


Here is the analogy. You have to vet your material through the super rich and connected.

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Only two bidders for Gawker, auction is today:

Ziff-Davis and

Univision? ¿¡Qué rayos!?

Univision apparently also owns part of.... the Onion.

Ziff-Davis, not sure how they're still around, but they'd most likely be purchasing the company to chop it up and sell off the individual parts.


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