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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Always bet on the Rangers and Angels to spend too much money on someone so that they look busy.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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What are the chances this guy is even that good?

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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As a pitcher: pretty good

As a hitter: not so good


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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What are the chances this guy is even that good?


How many of these guys live up to the hype? Not many. I like this kid because he is stupidly passing up on millions to prove he's a stud today instead of waiting 2 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What are the chances this guy is even that good?


How many of these guys live up to the hype? Not many. I like this kid because he is stupidly passing up on millions to prove he's a stud today instead of waiting 2 years.


We see the same thing with the Cubans.

The less these executives see of a player, the more they seem to like them which is completely counterintuitive to the analytics age. I guess they are as susceptible as everyone else to wanting to believe in a myth

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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As a pitcher: pretty good

As a hitter: not so good

Once there is film on him, it will take about a year or 2 and he becomes average or below average. I just wanted him to be the WhiteSox average pitcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Darvish was pretty damn good before he blew out.


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Darvish was pretty damn good before he blew out.



It's that Iranian blood.


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Cashman wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Darvish was pretty damn good before he blew out.



It's that Iranian blood.

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Sources: Shohei Ohtani is done interviewing the seven finalists to sign him. His last meeting was actually Tuesday night with the San Diego Padres. Next, presumably, will be his decision. Timetable is not clear yet, but it could well be soon.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
As a pitcher: pretty good

As a hitter: not so good


Yep..and this two way player shit is nonsense...he will earn his keep as a pitcher, of course according to the numbers he's not as good as Darvish and Tananka in Japan....so the hype around this guy is ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Looks like it the Angels. Didn't see that one coming.

It's a great get for them. They sure as hell can use him.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Looks like it the Angels. Didn't see that one coming.

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Always bet on the Rangers and Angels to spend too much money on someone so that they look busy.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Orange County is like little Asia. Probably a big draw for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Makes sense on both sides

He gets to play in a big market without much pressure.

He can help that team.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Given what I've read, I would put my money on the Angels (with a small backup bet on the Mariners.)

I'm building up my resume for the Dr. Ken Predictor Award next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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On MLB Radio the talking heads were saying that the Angels are still something silly like $40M under the cap. One talking head was suggesting that they should go for both Moustakas and Lynn, the other was sort of leaning toward just going for Jake.

It seems like the under on w/l for the A's is going to be a good bet this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Billy Eppler has done a hell of a job in the short time he’s been there. He stole Simmons and Upton from the Braves and Tigers and he signed a couple of the wayward Braves prospects and now he snags Ohtani. Dude’s doin some work.


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Billy Eppler has done a hell of a job in the short time he’s been there. He stole Simmons and Upton from the Braves and Tigers and he signed a couple of the wayward Braves prospects and now he snags Ohtani. Dude’s doin some work.



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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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White Sox ever had an Asian player?

At least Theo tried. I had no idea if it would work out. Don't those Asians play with smaller balls?

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White Sox ever had an Asian player?

You couldn't come up with at least Shingo Takatsu and Tadahito Iguchi off the top of your head?

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White Sox ever had an Asian player?

You couldn't come up with at least Shingo Takatsu and Tadahito Iguchi off the top of your head?


To be honest,no. I do remember the Cub failure they picked up:

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White Sox ever had an Asian player?

At least Theo tried. I had no idea if it would work out. Don't those Asians play with smaller balls?


2005.

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MLB Network is showing a 2014 game Ohtani threw against a MLB all star team. He struck out Morneau and Longoria to end the 1st. Threw two high fastballs right by Longoria.


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and he dropped in two slow nose to toes curveballs to start off Zobrist then finished him off with a nasty splitty. At that time he was 20 years old


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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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I haven't heard them rumored as heavy hitters in this contest but I think the Angels end up with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Shohei Otani
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Partially torn UCL.....nice. I thought his statement about getting the PRP treatments as a purely preventative measure was fishy.

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Partially torn UCL.....nice. I thought his statement about getting the PRP treatments as a purely preventative measure was fishy.


Chinese, Japanese, Otani is going to need surgery!


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