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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:20 pm 
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what differentiates chili from a stew ? Or is chili technically a stew ?

It's a stew without "stew" in its name, like how cheesecake is a pie.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:22 pm 
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
But my favorite part is this!
Brick chili
After eating, wants to spend the afternoon telling you why you were wrong to eat it. Then you get heartburn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_con_carne


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If there isn't cumin in it, it ain't chili.

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I'm not saying its the best but I like a lot of the canned chili out there, sometimes even more than homemade.


A good take by GD. Homemade chili overrated.

Making chili is more enjoyable than actually eating it.

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and the meat you meathead. look at my original question.

Brick in a nutshell.

"pressing out nearly all of the moisture, leaving a solid substance roughly the size and shape of a half-brick."

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So is "White Chicken Chili" chili?

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only if it meets the Brick Chili criteria:

Meat(or whatever substitute vegetarians use)
Peppers
Onions
Garlic
Chili Powder
Cumin
A liquid element
Tomatoes/Tomato Paste or both
A Hershey Kiss

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
So is "White Chicken Chili" chili?
Why not? I like it. Every time I've had it there have been white beans in there.

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So is "White Chicken Chili" chili?
Why not? I like it. Every time I've had it there have been white beans in there.
I with you. Quite tasty.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
and the meat you meathead. look at my original question.
Huh? I don't think you made that clear but that's fine. So I take some ground beef, throw in some chili peppers, and I've got chili? :lol:

Also, that's a funny insult to use. Are you a 1970s tv character?

doug - evergreen park wrote:
Brick in a nutshell.

"pressing out nearly all of the moisture, leaving a solid substance roughly the size and shape of a half-brick."
Oh, I didn't know it would get even funnier.

You seem to have a personal problem with me that you are using your terrible thoughts on chili to transport them like a good piece of cornbread. I am sorry if I did anything to you.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
So is "White Chicken Chili" chili?
I would reluctantly say it is. Unlike doug, I'm willing to concede that my rules are not always 100% true. White Chicken chili omits the tomato and adds in some olive oil. However, a large portion of it stays true to the concept of chili.

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Also, that's a funny insult to use. Are you a 1970s tv character?


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Because you're a meathead, dead from the neck up!

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
only if it meets the Brick Chili criteria:

Meat(or whatever substitute vegetarians use)
Peppers
Onions
Garlic
Chili Powder
Cumin
A liquid element
Tomatoes/Tomato Paste or both
A Hershey Kiss

lovely recipe. nearly the exact ingredients i used for the beef chili i made:

ground ancho chili pepper
ground chipotle chili pepper
cumin
dried oregano
ground coriander
cinnamon
corn meal
beef chuck roast (cubed)
bacon
salt
yellow onion
garlic
jalapeño peppers
serrano peppers
chipotle peppers
beef broth
beer
crushed tomatoes
honey

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Bababooey wrote:
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I'm not saying its the best but I like a lot of the canned chili out there, sometimes even more than homemade.


A good take by GD. Homemade chili overrated.

Making chili is more enjoyable than actually eating it.

true, making green chili is a labor of love. roasting the tomatillos, poblanos and garlic for the base gives a larger sense of ownership than throwing in a can of tomatoes.


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Upon reflection I would like to apologize to Doug for saying that beans are filler in chili.

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They're a solid ingredient...but, yes, they are also filler.

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Ingredients
 4 cans of beans, rinsed(black, white and pink are the best imho)
 2 tablespoons olive oil
 2 cups chopped yellow onion
 2 jalapenos minced
 2 tablespoons minced garlic
 2 serrano peppers minced
 2 habanero peppers minced
 2 1/2 pounds ground turkey or pulled pork roast or pulled chicken or pot roast or
ground beef
 3 Tablespoon chili powder
 1 Tablespoon salt
 1 Tablespoon ground cumin
 1/2 teaspoon dried oregano, crumbled
 2 bay leaves
 1 Tablespoon smoked paprika
 1 teaspoon pepper, ground coriander, garlic powder, crushed red pepper, cayenne
pepper
 3 cups chicken broth(optional)
 3 cans diced tomatoes
 2 (4-ounce) cans diced green chiles, undrained
 1 (4-ounce) can of diced roasted jalapenos
 1 tablespoon finely chopped fresh cilantro stems
 ¼ cup sour cream (optional)
 2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh cilantro leaves
 Sour cream, for serving
 Grated Cheddar or Monterey Jack cheese, optional for serving
 Chopped green onions, optional for serving
Directions
Cook the meat separately…you can use more or less peppers to your taste. I usually
mince up a Hungarian hot pepper and put it in too.
In a skillet, heat the oil and saute the onion and peppers until soft and beginning to
caramelize. Add the garlic and cook, stirring, for a few minutes. Add seasonings, chili
powder, salt, cumin, oregano, and bay leaves and cook, stirring occasionally. Add the
meat, chicken broth, canned tomatoes, canned chiles, and cilantro stems and stir to
combine. Bring to a boil, reduce heat to a simmer, and cook, uncovered, for 45 minutes,
stirring occasionally. After it has cooked for 30 minutes, add the beans. Add the sour
cream and cilantro leaves and cook, stirring occasionally, for 15 minutes longer.
Serve the chili in deep bowls, garnished with dollops of sour cream, grated Cheddar
cheese, and green onions to taste.

The last couple times, I just cut the stem off the habaneros and let them simmer in the chili for a few hours. Don't forget to take them out.


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A handful of oyster crackers and handful of shredded cheese, lol sour creme and boom..done.

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They're a solid ingredient...but, yes, they are also filler.

It wasn't worth losing a friend over it.

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5 minutes of reading about chilli and it appears it is not supposed to have beans.

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5 minutes of reading about chilli and it appears it is not supposed to have beans.

ya but somehow the Bean Syndicate has brainwashed a decent chunk of CFMB


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5 minutes of reading about chilli and it appears it is not supposed to have beans.

ya but somehow the Bean Syndicate has brainwashed a decent chunk of CFMB

Big Legume has its tentacles in places you wouldn't neccessarily expect.

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according to the "original" recipe in the wiki link, chili can be just meat and chili peppers.

after that...whatever.

my chili "recipe" is very simple and boring, but everyone that has had it seems to love it.

my point, which i apparently did a shit job of making, is that once you get past the "x" number of basic ingredients, adding vegetables to chili, which ultimately take on the flavor profile of the sauce, would be filler to increase the yield. Like adding eggs to milk to stretch them. So, stuff like corn, carrots, celery, squash, potatoes, zucchini, and i guess beans. Not really necessary.

Chopped onion, sour cream, oyster crackers, and cheese being like the ketchup to your fries.

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They're a solid ingredient...but, yes, they are also filler.

It wasn't worth losing a friend over it.


Friends have bean lost for less.

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5 minutes of reading about chilli and it appears it is not supposed to have beans.

ya but somehow the Bean Syndicate has brainwashed a decent chunk of CFMB

Big Legume has its tentacles in places you wouldn't neccessarily expect.

It’s clear the Cloud Gate sculpture is a subliminal art piece influencing Chicagoans use of beans in chili. The Bean Biz are sneaky bastards.


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doug - evergreen park wrote:
according to the "original" recipe in the wiki link, chili can be just meat and chili peppers.

after that...whatever.

my chili "recipe" is very simple and boring, but everyone that has had it seems to love it.

my point, which i apparently did a shit job of making, is that once you get past the "x" number of basic ingredients, adding vegetables to chili, which ultimately take on the flavor profile of the sauce, would be filler to increase the yield. Like adding eggs to milk to stretch them. So, stuff like corn, carrots, celery, squash, potatoes, zucchini, and i guess beans. Not really necessary.

Chopped onion, sour cream, oyster crackers, and cheese being like the ketchup to your fries.

Doesn't the meat also take the 'flavor profile' of the sauce?

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I like toasting my spices or peppers sometimes.

I like a good white chicken chili too.


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I'll go with my usual recipe first, but there are some good ideas here I'll probably experiment with later in the season.

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I have chili for lunch pretty much every day at work. Anton's Fruit Ranch makes really good turkey and chicken chili which they rotate throughout the week. I get a bowl of that every day at lunch. Also get a side of cheese, but NO CRACKERS.

Pro Tip: instead of crackers get a bag of Stacey's plain Pita chips and crumble that in the chili. Actually adds some flavor rather than the sawdust flavor you get from regular crackers.

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